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    Yep, and SirDet it was no problem.... just trying to save the trouble of trying to find a fair adventure price.
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    No offense Jethro702, but I DO NOT endorse this.

    I was the first to sell adventures on this server and have been selling them the longest, so I have some experience pricing them.

    This list is off target more than it is on.

    ie. The Black Knights, no way an adventure that drops approx. 15k worth of rewards and has a 12% chance of dropping an epic building sells for 1.5k

    In order for a price guide to be realistic you must factor in the total reward, (x2 or x3 for co-op adventures).
    The demand based on scarcity and popularity.
    The demand based on XP.
    The cost effectiveness of running the adventure.
    Special items or other adventure drops.

    This is my estimation:

    - Horseback --------------- 200 coins (highest XP of easy adventures)
    - Witch of the Swamp ---- 150 coins
    - Island of the Pirates ---- 300 coins(highest loot of easy adventures and drops Motherly Love)
    - The Dark Priests -------- 175 coins
    - Traitors ------------------ 100 coins(utilized for XP shortcut)
    - Stealing from the Rich - 275 coins(double reward & drops white castle)
    - Old Friends -------------- 250 coins(rarity, reward, XP)
    - Outlaws ------------------ 100 coins
    - Sons of the Veld --------- 400 coins(2k+ rewards, 33k XP)
    - The Nords ---------------- 1500 coins
    - Secluded Experiments -- 200 coins(15k+ reward, 40k XP)(Anomaly because it's 40 map frags in gem shop)
    - The Black Knights ------- 2000 coins(15k+ rewards, 30 XP, epic bldg.)
    - The Dark Brotherhood -- 2500 coins(15k+ reward, 50k XP, epic bldg.)
    - Motherly Love ------------ 300 coins
    - Victor the Vicious -------- 350 coins
    Last edited by SirRoy; 03-04-12 at 07:59 pm.

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    It's not often I agree with SirRoy's pricing structures, but I do agree with this one. Adventures are getting harder to obtain by adventure searches, I am lucky to get 2 easy ones a week. Because the frequency has been nerfed, the price to purchase them should reflect that. Now, when the Easter promotion comes and adventures can be purchased with map frags, the prices will decrease.

    One thing I will disagree with is the price of The Dark Brotherhood. It should be less than Dark Knights because troop loss is ridiculously high. Troop loss in Dark Knights is much less, making it a more desireable adventure for great loot and XP.
    (and BTW, you couldn't give me Motherly Love).

    Quote Originally Posted by SirRoy View Post
    No offense Jethro702, but I DO NOT endorse this.

    I was the first to sell adventures on this server and have been selling them the longest, so I have some experience pricing them.

    This list is off target more than it is on.

    ie. The Black Knights, no way an adventure that drops approx. 15k worth of rewards and has a 12% chance of dropping an epic building sells for 1.5k

    In order for a price guide to be realistic you must factor in the total reward, (x2 or x3 for co-op adventures).
    The demand based on scarcity and popularity.
    The demand based on XP.
    The cost effectiveness of running the adventure.
    Special items or other adventure drops.

    This is my estimation:

    - Horseback --------------- 200 coins (highest XP of easy adventures)
    - Witch of the Swamp ---- 150 coins
    - Island of the Pirates ---- 300 coins(highest loot of easy adventures and drops Motherly Love)
    - The Dark Priests -------- 175 coins
    - Traitors ------------------ 100 coins(utilized for XP shortcut)
    - Stealing from the Rich - 275 coins(double reward & drops white castle)
    - Old Friends -------------- 250 coins(rarity, reward, XP)
    - Outlaws ------------------ 100 coins
    - Sons of the Veld --------- 400 coins(2k+ rewards, 33k XP)
    - The Nords ---------------- 1500 coins
    - Secluded Experiments -- 200 coins(15k+ reward, 40k XP)(Anomaly because it's 40 map frags in gem shop)
    - The Black Knights ------- 2000 coins(15k+ rewards, 30 XP, epic bldg.)
    - The Dark Brotherhood -- 2500 coins(15k+ reward, 50k XP, epic bldg.)
    - Motherly Love ------------ 300 coins
    - Victor the Vicious -------- 350 coins
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyTerra View Post

    One thing I will disagree with is the price of The Dark Brotherhood. It should be less than Dark Knights because troop loss is ridiculously high.
    Yeah DB you will loose several thousand gold just in cavalry. Also the price on black knights has been around 1,500 because it can be had in the gem shop for 495 gems, and even on a bad day you can usually find someone to trade gems for coins 1:2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirRoy View Post
    No offense Jethro702, but I DO NOT endorse this.

    I was the first to sell adventures on this server and have been selling them the longest, so I have some experience pricing them.

    This list is off target more than it is on.

    ie. The Black Knights, no way an adventure that drops approx. 15k worth of rewards and has a 12% chance of dropping an epic building sells for 1.5k

    In order for a price guide to be realistic you must factor in the total reward, (x2 or x3 for co-op adventures).
    The demand based on scarcity and popularity.
    The demand based on XP.
    The cost effectiveness of running the adventure.
    Special items or other adventure drops.

    This is my estimation:

    - Horseback --------------- 200 coins (highest XP of easy adventures)
    - Witch of the Swamp ---- 150 coins
    - Island of the Pirates ---- 300 coins(highest loot of easy adventures and drops Motherly Love)
    - The Dark Priests -------- 175 coins
    - Traitors ------------------ 100 coins(utilized for XP shortcut)
    - Stealing from the Rich - 275 coins(double reward & drops white castle)
    - Old Friends -------------- 250 coins(rarity, reward, XP)
    - Outlaws ------------------ 100 coins
    - Sons of the Veld --------- 400 coins(2k+ rewards, 33k XP)
    - The Nords ---------------- 1500 coins
    - Secluded Experiments -- 200 coins(15k+ reward, 40k XP)(Anomaly because it's 40 map frags in gem shop)
    - The Black Knights ------- 2000 coins(15k+ rewards, 30 XP, epic bldg.)
    - The Dark Brotherhood -- 2500 coins(15k+ reward, 50k XP, epic bldg.)
    - Motherly Love ------------ 300 coins
    - Victor the Vicious -------- 350 coins
    Well this is the thread to discuss and debate on these things..... so all options are considered..... we discuss your list and see if all agree then change the initial list. Your list seems to be a good list and includes the reasons for pricing which I like. So lets all discuss and the initial list will be updated as needed.
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    One thing I wish to debate on is the price for Traitors. SirRoy's price is 25 coins over what others agreed on to be 50-75 coins. What is your reasoning behind that besides a xp shortcut. If I know correctly if you want the whole thing it is a lot of losses for little xp and meager loot. Just because you can do 1 camp lose 20-35 recruits and get 1.8k xp doesn't seem to factor into 100 coins. Please explain further.
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    Thanks Jethro, for the work to build this thread.

    And for folks who want to ride in and challenge your findings: a question.

    Can anyone really be "cheated"? I REALLY like the trade calculators - but in my guild, if I have a bunch of something, I try to sell it cheaper than the recommendation (and my guildies of higher levels practically GIVE me stuff... well, LITERALLY give me stuff). And in the trade thread with strangers - if I need something and have excess of the other thing, I trade it - and I'm happy.

    I'd think the "best" way to have this discussion (in my opinion, seldom humble - even more seldom right) // use the thread to offer and buy and sell. You'll figure out pretty quick what the "right" price is - when the deal is made.

    Sorry to interrupt. Carry on. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jethro702 View Post
    One thing I wish to debate on is the price for Traitors. SirRoy's price is 25 coins over what others agreed on to be 50-75 coins. What is your reasoning behind that besides a xp shortcut. If I know correctly if you want the whole thing it is a lot of losses for little xp and meager loot. Just because you can do 1 camp lose 20-35 recruits and get 1.8k xp doesn't seem to factor into 100 coins. Please explain further.
    Traitors: 165 gems.............165 gems: 330 coins
    100g is more than 1/3 less than the gem cost of this adventure.

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    Also the price on black knights has been around 1,500 because it can be had in the gem shop for 495 gems, and even on a bad day you can usually find someone to trade gems for coins 1:2.
    I'm not following this ... If a bad day requires 2 coins per gem, then a 495 gem item would cost about 1,000 coins. Presumably on a good day, the rate's something less than 1:2, 1:1.5 perhaps. That would lower the cost of BK from 1,000 coins to 750.

    So why is it selling for 1,500?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirRoy View Post
    Traitors: 165 gems.............165 gems: 330 coins
    100g is more than 1/3 less than the gem cost of this adventure.
    I would like to know who has ever purchased this adventure from the gem shop.

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