Production Chains (Ratios)

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Production chains

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Foresters - Woodcutters - Sawmills (Fir wood planks)
3 - 2 - 4

Foresters - Woodcutters - Coking plants (Coal)
3 - 2 - 2

Foresters - Woodcutters - Bowmakers (Bows)
3 - 2 - 2

Foresters - Woodcutters - Sawmills (Hardwood planks)
3 - 2 - 4

Foresters - Woodcutters - Bowmakers (Longbows)
12 - 8 - 3

Mines/Coking plants/Coal mines - Smelters - Forges (Tools)
1/1/0.5 - 2 - 2

Mines/Coking plants/Coal mines - Smelters - Forges (Bronze swords)
1/3/1.5 - 2 - 2

Mines/Coking plants/Coal mines - Smelters - Forges (Iron swords)
4/5/2.5 - 2 - 1

Mines/Coking plants/Coal mines – Iron smelters – Steel smelters - Forges (Steel swords)
4/6.5/3.25 - 2 - 1 - 1

Mines/Coking plants/Coal mines - Smelters - Forges (Coins)
4/4/2 - 2 - 1

Farms/Wells - Stables (Horses)
4/2 - 1

Farms/Wells - Brewers (Beer)
2/1 - 1

Farms/Wells - Mills - Bakers (Bread)
4/2 - 2 - 1

Hunters - Butchers (Sausages)
2 - 1

One of the most valuable tools in an empire building game. This should be stickied I think. Thanx for the info mate.

With all such games, this sort of information is golden! Thanks for collecting this.

I'm still without a beta key, but good god does seeing numbers like this make me want to play. It's like seeing technical specs on machinery, creating an almost pornographic effect.

I don't agree with the 1:1 ratio of woodcutters and cokers, it should be more like 4:3 WC to Cokers

Overall very helpful though ;)

what it mean by 1.5,2.5, and 3.25? how you do that?

I still find these ratios confusing. If it's different for sawmills and coking plants and you have both obviously, what do you do? Isn't there just an ideal ratio of foresters and cutters, I keep running out of logs! Sorry if i'm being dumb here but everyone seems to have different strategies. I'm guessing 3 foresters and 2 cutters for most things?

This should definitely be stickied. People are Constantly asking ratios, and people are always telling them different things which isn't very helpful.

Another thing to add I see a lot... How many fields per farm

what about the ratio for tool?

2 farms / field

Well the reason you can't just have 1 ideal ratio Lousia is because everyone makes their settlement unique to the next and it depends on what you want to optimize or what your current focus is. The ratios are directly porportionate to the details of production time when you click on a building, leaving no room for error other than the fact that overall time also depends on how close your building is to a storehouse or your mayors house as this also directly affects production times. Thanks for doing this Arad, now I can just tell them to go check on forums if they can't crunch the numbers in building details :P

As for farms to fields it doesnt matter much altho personally I do at least 2 fields to every 1 farm so if I'm offline for an extended period and 1 field gets exhausted my farm has a backup that it can still farm. You can do however many farms to 1 field but it will use up more licenses and burn up your fields that much faster. Same as with wells for breweries and bakeries. The key thing is to keep an eye on your amounts so you aren't running dangerously low.

Great Post! The types of Mines, Smelters and Forges could be spelled out a little better. (Especially for newbies like me. :D )

1 Copper Mine > [1 Coking plants/0.5 Coal mines] ---> 2 Copper Smelters > 2 Toolmakers ->(Tools)
1 Copper Mine > [3 Coking plants/1.5 Coal mines] ---> 2 Copper Smelters > 2 Bronze Weaponsmiths ->(Bronze swords)
4 Iron Mines -> [5 Coking plants/2.5 Coal mines] ---> 2 Iron Smelters --> 1 Iron Weaponsmith ->(Iron swords)
4 Iron Mines -> [6.5 Coking plants/3.25 Coal mines] > 2 Iron Smelters --> 1 Steel Smelter > 1 Steel Weaponsmith >(Steel Swords)
4 Gold Mines -> [4 Coking plants/2 Coal mines] -----> 2 Gold Smelters --> 1 Coinage -->(Coins)

What should it be for stone and marble deposits? 2 to 1 deposit? 1 to 1? ??

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Originally Posted by Destors

What should it be for stone and marble deposits? 2 to 1 deposit? 1 to 1? ??

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As stone is itself an end product, the ratio you go with depends on the speed you wish to have stone accumulate. As masons can have more then 1 per deposit, you can go as high as you feel. Stone has many deposits throughout the map, and it's not realistic to have them all covered early on with the limited housing licenses. At the start you use stone more heavily so having 2-1 or even a few more to bring in can help to build up the lower level building chains faster. You will ultimately reduce the number you have by upgrading one and demolishing the others as there use will drop low, and the speed you need to acquire stone at drops out in place of marble.

Well said as usual Silvanoshei. After I hit level 17 and was able to make a marble mason my 1st upgrade to level 2 for a building was my mason near my mayor house that has 2 stone deposits just above it. Soon after I upgraded it to level 3 and its the only stone mason I have, that along with random explores rewarding stone has kept stone in good supply for me.

Had a thought while utilizing the Provision House today. Can the production "Que" be made so you can prioritize it? Just like in the production "que" for building's.

2 farms/field seems like a strange ratio??? is this ratio saying that it takes 2 people to work one field?

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Originally Posted by yeoldfart

2 farms/field seems like a strange ratio??? is this ratio saying that it takes 2 people to work one field?

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Well, yes and no. It's saying that one field can support the production of two farms just fine.

What is the ratio for Sandwiches? fishers vs bakery?

Thanks BB_Arad1 !!
But you do realize you will have to teach a 101 basic math class now as well.:D
And I can read your writing much better than mine too.:cool:

what about the other mines, copper , marble

Thanks Traxx
I fixed my farm to field ratio I'm now happy with the wheat production.

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Originally Posted by Lora

what about the other mines, copper , marble

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no ratios needed, u can build as much as u want -

Your tips are helpful

I used this and it was pretty helpful, thanks!

what about farms to fields? 1 farm needs how many fields?

what is ur ratio?

Standard ratio seems to be 2 farms per wheatfield.

thank u

more life 5 fields/farm

I want to upgrade my town hall, it says 800 hardwood planks but I can only hold 600.What can I do?

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Originally Posted by cface1

I want to upgrade my town hall, it says 800 hardwood planks but I can only hold 600.What can I do?

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upgrade your storage house

These are guidelines, they don't take travel time into account so you have to adjust some based on placement of the items in the chain.

The number of fields per farm really depends on how often you can log in and monitor your account. A farm can only work one field at a time. It will go to the closest one and work it until it's empty and then go to the next one. You just want enough fields on the map to keep the farms working until you can log in again and lay down new fields.

The same applies to masons and quarries. Masons travel to the nearest quarry deposit and work it until it's empty, then move to the next one. Your ultimate production depends on the number of masons you have, not the number of quarries. You only need 1 quarry to keep all your masons busy. The only difference with masons is you can't really control placement of the quarries so your travel time may vary every time you look for a new deposit.

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Originally Posted by Melkior

The number of fields per farm really depends on how often you can log in and monitor your account. A farm can only work one field at a time. It will go to the closest one and work it until it's empty and then go to the next one. You just want enough fields on the map to keep the farms working until you can log in again and lay down new fields.

The same applies to masons and quarries. Masons travel to the nearest quarry deposit and work it until it's empty, then move to the next one. Your ultimate production depends on the number of masons you have, not the number of quarries. You only need 1 quarry to keep all your masons busy. The only difference with masons is you can't really control placement of the quarries so your travel time may vary every time you look for a new deposit.

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can two or more masons work on 1 quarry at a time?

Yes Dracaine, one quarry can be worked by multiple masons just as one wheat field can be worked by multiple farms at the same time.

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Originally Posted by Melkior

Yes Dracaine, one quarry can be worked by multiple masons just as one wheat field can be worked by multiple farms at the same time.

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Ok, Thanks a lot man..

These ratios are very confusing. Anyone have a better version of them?

Is there a post like this for combat?

Is there a production ratio chart for gold mines and other high level items?