GUIDE TO: handle medium bandit camps

This is a guide to at least start taking down medium bandit camps that you find at level 20+. Haven't gotten to the later ones yet, but im confident in my strategy to take on the early ones. IE, I am level 21 at the time of this posting, and i've only killed a couple camps, so please elaborate on my guides shortcomings.

First off, you can't use a lot of your units because of the dogs.

Secondly, if any of you have calculated your losses for fighting one of these things, you'll see that its not possible to kill them off in one large attack regardless of what troops you use.

Given this information there is still a way to keep your losses for many of the early camps under 100 troops. How?

Example: Theres one camp at the bottom of the eastern territory with this troop configuration. 120 rangers, 60 dogs. The dogs make using cavalry and archers impossible, and the rangers are a force to be feared. However, if you send a smaller attack of 70 recruits, you will kill all of the dogs. After that, wait for your general to recharge, then attack again with your whole army as all of the dogs are dead. If you stack it with cavalry, you will experience very few losses and it is completely possible to avoid going any further than losing some more recruits.

However, many of you will notice that each camp has different troops and you will have to play with the troop simulator to figure out how to clear each camp with minimal losses. Remember that militia and cavalry are ESSENTIAL in handling medium bandit camps. So don't skimp out because of the cost.

Mass recruits with militia acting as archers for me. =D

Use the battle calculator! (Just remember that it doesn't have calvary and dogs attacking the correct units first yet!)

And check the german wiki for special stratagies that might save you some units.

Aye, Dark points to most the important concept to grasp moving on from the easy camps to medium/hard/boss camps and eventually adventure camps, and that's you cannot simply assume a single wave or a single unit large force of low tier troops will continue to be effective. To really minimize the loses especially as you move into the later medium camps is using the combat sims and/or tweaking the wiki stats to find optimal loses to troop ratios that are easily replenished with your personal economy.

Most of the medium camps (if not all) have dogs, so using the battle sim here isn't going to be of much use at the moment. Break out your own calculators!

the EKsim uses the dog correctly.

Camps with a lot of dogs normally mean you don't send in cavalry or archers.

So, for example, what would you send for 60 thugs and 120 guard dogs?

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Originally Posted by Aurorah

Mass recruits with militia acting as archers for me. =D

Use the battle calculator! (Just remember that it doesn't have calvary and dogs attacking the correct units first yet!)

And check the german wiki for special stratagies that might save you some units.

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Battle simulator should have dogs and cavalry attacking things in the right order now (for several release versions). If its still not correct let me know.

I know your post is old (prolly from before it got fixed) but putting the info here for others that read this thread due to recent posts.

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Originally Posted by DarkD

Example: Theres one camp at the bottom of the eastern territory with this troop configuration. 120 rangers, 60 dogs. The dogs make using cavalry and archers impossible, and the rangers are a force to be feared. However, if you send a smaller attack of 70 recruits, you will kill all of the dogs.

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Yes but what if it's a combination of dogs and thugs? Like 60 thugs 120 dogs for example? The recruits won't attack the dogs first, so seems like the strat of sending a recruit force first to take out the dogs won't work since the recruits can't kill dogs until all the thugs are dead.

In that case their army isn't enough to warrant a suicide attack. Just send a full army of 200. Put as many militia as you have in it and fill the rest with recruits.

Can't we just toss some poisoned meat over the fences for those dogs to eat? Maybe dose them with Ex-lax so they have other things of concern...You would think that Archers would have some success against the dogs while the dogs are doing their "business"...who ever said war is pretty? :rolleyes:

I think the point is that the DOGS attack the RECRUITS first (not the other way around). So the recruits still get the dogs in the first wave.

I found 200 recruits works well if you produce a lot of swords. You may lose the first battle but its not like the enemies you have killed respawn. Just send more recruits when you can build them. 2 waves should clear any camp without a boss, including hard bandit camps.

:mad:Your such poop. i sent 50 recriuts to beat the dogs. there was 130 thugs, 30 dogs, and 20 rangers. the thugs killed all my recruits and General so now i have to wait a long time

I approached the problem of dogs from a different perspective. An army of recruits takes two days to build, at the pace of 100 new people made each day. If you lose your first force of 200 recruits and most of your second taking a camp then your looking at four days to rebuild those armies. When I face a camp with 60 or less dogs in it, I send in 60 Calvary. These cavalry take out the dogs and leave the archers vulnerable to my remaining Calvary for the second attack.

Lets look at a mock battle against 70 Thugs, 60 Dogs and 70 Rangers

First attack I send in 60 Horses who average 7.5 damage each, 60 X 7.5 = 450
That sacrifice of 60 Horses took out every dog and 5 to 15 Rangers.
It will take me two days to replace those horses, but during that time I will also be making 140 other soldiers.

Second attack I send in 80 Horses ( had 20 in reserve ) 50 Recruits 20 Militia and 50 Bowmen
The horse will take out at least 50 of their Rangers right off the bat.
My recruits and Militia absorb the retaliation and attack with the bowmen to finish the enemy off.
Anything that survives will be finish by the Horses at the beginning of the next round.

My losses on the second round, maybe 50 recruits and 20 militia ...maybe.

Total loses for taking out a enemy Medium camp 50 Recruits, 20 militia, 60 horses. As opposed to nearly 400 recruits.

Horse take grain and water to produce, two of the cheapest thing to make in this game.

I still don't get the concept of 2 wave attack.. How do I send the first wave (just to take the dogs out) without getting my general killed?!

If I send a general with say 60+ recruits to take out 60 dogs, when all dogs and recruits are dead, wouldn't the thugs kill my general?! Am I supposed to retreat before my general is killed in the middle of the battle?! (If yes, how do I know when that is?).. Or would my general retreat automatically when all recruits are dead?

Your General doesn't get killed, just wounded when he loses. For a normal General that means a recovery time of 4 hours. He will retreat once all of the troops in his command are killed.