[Tool] Web resource calculator ("CEO - Economy")

Hi there,

So about a week ago I thought we seriously lack a proper resource calculator. I had some spare time and I really wanted to test one new technology - Google App Engine. It basically allows you to run a web application in Google's cloud.

Enough with the tech talk ;)

Here's the link: http://ceo-economy.appspot.com.

The main idea is to allow users to:

1. enter their buildings' REAL times
2. automatically do the math and display stats
3. save and load the data from and to the server

The app is still in development, but the basic functionality is in place. I plan to speed up graphics (it may load slow for the first time) and add more statistics (like for every resource, which buildings are contributing to the output). But I think now is the best time to ask for your opinion.

So... what do you think? What should I add or improve?

Here's a draft of my "to-do" list:

• add all buildings and resources (would be great if you could post here missing data, I'm still only 18 lvl in-game ;))
• add icons showing level/sleep/buff of a building
• add possibility to move buildings and arrange them in any order
• more detailed resource statistics

BTW: I tested the app on Firefox 3, Chrome 13. I also did a basic test on IE8. Let me know about any issues with browser compatibility!

Note: I will be on holidays till 25th August. I'll read any messages when I get back home and will continue developing the app to suit your needs :)

Screenshots:

Main page
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5...neecono.th.png

Resources overview
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/5...neecono.th.png

Buildings overview
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5...neecono.th.png

Editing building details
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6...neecono.th.jpg

Viewing building details
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/5...neecono.th.png

oh wow even cooler then lordfef's

I made a lot of comments in his thread if you want to take a look
http://forum.castleempireonline.com/...rce-Calculator

if you have google toolbar to translate this is good for base production times
http://www.siedlertools.de/wiki/Gebäudeübersicht

using the level field is a great way to do quantity of buildings like i have 6 wells at 3:28 so i make one well level 7 with time 3:28 However it would be nice to have a quantity button so it will add to the total buildings for easy total checks

I put my 3 Coal mines on but my coal produced is still 0

the iron smiths and other advanced building doesn't work rite

Once the rest of the advanced buildings are in it will be useful for me right now sticking to what i got. i did upload all my building info's though. In case you don't have the translator toolbar.

Iron mine
Production time: 6min
Consumes 1 iron deposits per cycle and stage of development.
Produces 1 iron per cycle and stage of development.

Coal mine
Production time: 1min 30sec
Consumes one set of the coal mine and expansion stage per cycle.
Produces 1 coal per cycle and stage of development.

Iron weaponsmith
Production time: 12min
Consumes 2 Iron and 8 Coal per cycle and stage of development.
Produces 1 Iron Sword per cycle and stage of development.

Stable
Production time: 6 minutes
Consumes 2 wheat 4 water per cycle and stage of development.
Produces 1 per cycle and stage of development.

Longbowmaker
Production time: 24min
Consumes 16 Hardwood Logs per cycle and stage of development.
Produces 1 Longbow per cycle and stage of development.

Hunter
Production time: 6 min
1 wild resources consumed per cycle and stage of development.
Produces 1 meat per cycle and stage of development.

Butcher
Production time: 12min
Consumes 4 meat per cycle and stage of development.
Produces 1 Sausage per cycle and stage of development.

That is it for now if you want me to do the rest just ask

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Originally Posted by Afetogbo

oh wow even cooler then lordfef's

I made a lot of comments in his thread if you want to take a look
http://forum.castleempireonline.com/...rce-Calculator

if you have google toolbar to translate this is good for base production times
http://www.siedlertools.de/wiki/Gebäudeübersicht

using the level field is a great way to do quantity of buildings like i have 6 wells at 3:28 so i make one well level 7 with time 3:28 However it would be nice to have a quantity button so it will add to the total buildings for easy total checks

I put my 3 Coal mines on but my coal produced is still 0

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Thanks for feedback.
About the quantity field: the idea is to have one icon of a building for every real building in-game. That way you can activate/deactivate and buff/debuff each building separately.
I could add an option to add more than one building at once. Something like "create X new buildings".

Update:
I have uploaded a newer version with all advanced buildings and all advanced resources.
Bad news is that I'm not sure about Google App Engine quotas per application. It looks like saving building eats a lot of Google's resources. So something might stop working in the near future :p But I'll try to refactor and optimize the saving action.

nice so only save when finished?

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Originally Posted by Afetogbo

nice so only save when finished?

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It will definitely serve more people that way :) I simply need to observe server statistics and then I will know how Google calculates their quotas.

Deep wells are not showing up as producing water

I've added Deep Well info. I've also edited the first post to show a few screenshots :)

I've also checked the usage statistics and it seems it was a false alarm yesterday. Google handles it really well and the app can easily handle a lot more users per day :)

I'll be leaving for holidays tomorrow, so I'll continue working on this app when I'm back. See you!

Great Info/App help out loads

Wonderful app for finding the holes in my imbalanced economy.

Unbelievably excellent app, its what should be built into the game already but you've done a great job.....takes the guess work out of empire management!

You are my hero.

This looks like it would be useful. Only problem is it won't let me register in chrome or in ie9. It just keeps telling me my passwords don't match in the registration dialog.

seems to hang up when i try to register. doesn't do anything when i click the button.

steel smelter should be using 2x iron instead of 2x iron ore

Registration is still broken.

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Originally Posted by Afetogbo

steel smelter should be using 2x iron instead of 2x iron ore

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Yeah I agree. Found out the hard way and demolished my upgraded iron smelters thinking I didn't need them anymore. :(

...Other than that, the tool has been useful...

Hi, sorry for a delayed inactivity :)

About the registration thing: unfortunately it's a more complicated issue. It's all because the way Google stores data. As their docs say: "Most queries are eventually consistent". In human-readable form it means: "once you register, it may take a moment for the application to notice that". Problems start when you register again with the same username and the app allows you to do that (second registration). The moment it receives the FIRST registration, your account becomes unusable, because there can't be two users with the same username.

There's no easy solution for that problem (in the current setup, not in general). I'm currently working on it. There's a chance I will simply change database to a "strongly consistent" one. But I'd need to find a way to migrate your data first.

Temporary solution for now: I have deleted all "duplicated" accounts. Try to register ONCE! Even if the registration fails, try to log in after a moment. It should work.
I will add warnings in the near future.

So, stay tuned: it will work one way or another! :)


Edit: version 1.0beta4 is up! I tried to fix the registration bug, I hope you won't see it again (but who knows? ;)). I have also fixed the Steel Smelter bug.
Please report any further issues in this thread.

Great app, just what the game is missing!

CEO Economy is out of beta! :)

I figured that the app seems to be running ok and works as expected. So I have fixed a few issues, added a few features and and now I can officially announce release 1.0!

You can check it out here: http://ceo-economy.appspot.com.

*sound of a cricket*

Hmm, ok. No big deal really.

Among things changed/added are:

• added missing Expert Buildings and Expert Resources - all buildings and resources are now present
• added working Feedback page
• added displaying of building's levels
• if certain building is buffed or inactive - appropriate info is displayed

BTW: is anyone interested in helping with translations? There's really not much to translate, but it would be cool to do it. Especially to German, as there's a lot of German players out there.

Just wanted to say again, great job! Love the update and feedback page, expect to get a couple from me lol.

Great app, you made this yourself?

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Originally Posted by KR11396

Great app, you made this yourself?

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Thanks :) And yeah, I made this from scratch myself (using official graphics of course). I wanted to test out Google's new technology for web apps and this project seemed suitable for this purpose ;)

This is awesome man!

Me Gusta!

Gocek, it seems to struggle with how much trees are actually cut down and put back on the map. Regardless if it's HW or FW. Could you look into it by chance?

ie, I have enough foresters keeping my cutters happy. However in your resource calculator it says I should be losing trees when in fact I'm gaining.

I also seem to be losing more trees than I should be in the app. Overall AWESOME though - really amazing job.

Thanks man!!

This is such an awesome calculator! I love it instantly! However, when I try to register, there's no response. I tried refreshing the page, but all I got is 503 Over Quota message, and it's been like that ever since. I wonder how I can solve this problem?

This app is built on google apps engine and it seems that so many people are using it that they ran out of either bandwidth or some other resource capped by google.

Kudos on getting so many people to use your app. I host some websites but I don't know what are the requirements needed for your stuff. Let me know and maybe I have something that will work.

Gocek, thanks for putting this together. Not sure if you're still dabbling with improvements, but it would be nice if it it said somewhere how many licenses are being used.

This tool is just awesome.. however. i just wanna let you know that for some reason.. the site is down as of an hour or so ago

I think the problem is that it's a free app which doesn't allow for many visitors. That's why he posted at the top of the page requesting donations. It's gone down for awhile a few times recently with the same error.

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In recent days, this application has been getting more and more visitors each day. It's great that people use it, actually :) The problem is, that there is a limited number of users, which can be served for free. Some of you might have seen an error '503 Over Quota'. It meant that the free cap has been reached. Since then, I had to enable a paid subscription for the hosting. This is where I need your support. I won't be able to pay for the site forever. If you like what I've created, please consider helping just a little bit. Even a few bucks will make a difference ;)
Right now, there are a few thousand unique visitors each day. If you want me to further develop and maintain this app, there is a possibility to make a PayPal donation below. You don't need a PayPal account to pay with a credit card.

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The donate page is still visible here.

Necro for this, but i still use this app its awesome. Any chance we can get some updates for this? Like friary and endless copper mine ?

Agreed - this guide is amazing