No Wipe? (Please reconsider)

I'm surprised that the devs have no plans to reset the game after the closed beta.

Let's put away our competitive greed and think this over.

This was a closed beta, meaning that only those who were invited had the pleasure of trying out CEO. It is completely unfair that only the selected few get to keep everything they hoarded even before the game entered the open beta phase.

I acknowledge that the poll results slighty favored a no-wipe, but those results were almost entirely based on the opinions (or rather, wish) of the closed beta testers.

We already have the experience we need to build a better, more efficient empire. Can we not let the new comers start on even footing?

I'd also like to stress here that while yes, the no option to wipe after beta did win, the overall votes were almost completely split down the middle. If BB/Ubi folks have decided that it's better for the game to not be reset that's one thing, but doing it for the sole reason that no won by a mere 7 votes (and let's keep in mind here that countless number of folks either don't check the forums or worse yet, aren't able to log into the forums because of their validation not working) is... not exactly the strongest argument to stand on.

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Originally Posted by Turkey

This was a closed beta, meaning that only those who were invited had the pleasure of trying out CEO.

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I don't think it was very hard to get a closed beta key. I was under the impression that anyone could sign up and get one. I know when I signed up I had an email within minutes with my key.

That being said, I do think they should implement the ability to start your account over if you choose.

You have no idea what a closed beta is, do you?

No, not everyone that signs up gets a key.

Trying to make life take the Lemons back?

Before I go any farther I'll say right up front that I also voted to wipe.

That being said, face it, we lost... We were outvoted slightly by the players wanting to retain what they've spent a lot of time building.
I don't necessarily agree, but I can sympathize with their viewpoint. There were a lot of ongoing discussions about this in chat as well.

If I'd been given the opportunity to do things over there's a lot I would have done differently, but I can also live with the Empire I've
managed to build without any regrets.

It would appear that the BB/UBI folks also agree with the decision and actually we have no idea if this was the only factor that played into
the making of that decision. (I believe the player's opinions might have been a factor in the decision, but I doubt it was the only factor
or even a significant one.)

So let's move along with what we've been given and make the best of it.
(I would have made the obvious lemons to lemonade remark in closing, But even though I happen to disagree on this issue,
I really do respect Cenzton and everything he's contributed during this Beta)

Graywolf, the verdict has yet been handed down and they are merely "leaning" towards no-wipe.

You should already know this if you read the news on the front page.

Katealyst said in chat today that there will be no wipe unless something catastrophic happens in which case everyone will be refunded.

A wipe should be optional for the CEO Testers!

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Originally Posted by Turkey

Graywolf, the verdict has yet been handed down and they are merely "leaning" towards no-wipe.

You should already know this if you read the news on the front page.

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Yes, I can read. (When absolutely forced to)
But I was also going by the information that Katealyst gave us in chat this morning... :cool:

those voted for wipe can start at a new server. inb4 end of discussion :)

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Originally Posted by Demacia

those voted for wipe can start at a new server. inb4 end of discussion :)

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This is assuming we're allowed to have more than one kingdom.

You can't have more than one kingdom. I play on the euro server and you can only choose your server at the time of account creation.

The guild would take a major hit if everyone started on a new server Demacia. Probably 1/2 of our guild wanted the reset, if not more.

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Originally Posted by Turkey

You have no idea what a closed beta is, do you?

No, not everyone that signs up gets a key.

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Actually you are incorrect, when this "closed" beta began, it was stated several times in response to players both in game asking about friend and on the face book page, if you sign up, you WILL receive access within a few days of signing up. So it has in fact been a restricted open beta, but to my knowledge no one to date who has signed up has not been followed up with a key. They could not proceed with a full closed beta as the interest is not on the level of a million + out the gate game.

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Originally Posted by Tapewormz

You can't have more than one kingdom. I play on the euro server and you can only choose your server at the time of account creation.

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Make another account for the other server?

Pretty much do the same thing you did with EU server.

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Originally Posted by Silvanoshei

Actually you are incorrect, when this "closed" beta began, it was stated several times in response to players both in game asking about friend and on the face book page, if you sign up, you WILL receive access within a few days of signing up. So it has in fact been a restricted open beta, but to my knowledge no one to date who has signed up has not been followed up with a key. They could not proceed with a full closed beta as the interest is not on the level of a million + out the gate game.

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Actually Silvanoshei, I am correct.
I signed up with 2 different emails for a better chance to get into the beta, and guess what? Only one of them got invited.

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Originally Posted by Aurorah

Make another account for the other server?

Pretty much do the same thing you did with EU server.

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Making another account is forbidden by the TOS.

I don't want to start sounding like I'm making up excuses or anything, but I don't want to use a different username. :P

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Originally Posted by Turkey

Actually Silvanoshei, I am correct.
I signed up with 2 different emails for a better chance to get into the beta, and guess what? Only one of them got invited.

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I can only assume you have done something incorrect in entering the information, all of my friends have been accepted to date without issues and growing.

Personally, I don't want to have to rebuild again from scratch (since I took care of rebuilding nearly everything at Level 17 which set me back considerably time and resource-wise, but it was well worth it). I voted against the wipe, because new players can always be set up on a new server.

Frankly, I don't know if I would continue playing if there was a wipe, simply because of the tedious grind to get back to where I am now. Really don't want to have to kill Chuck, Metal, and soon Mary again. The social aspect of the game at this point is the glue that keeps me here as well as moving on into adventures where I can co-op play with friends/guild mates and hopefully moving on to pvp if and when that is instated.

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I don't want to start sounding like I'm making up excuses or anything, but I don't want to use a different username. :P

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It's simple enough to move to the new server, and before going ask the Ubi_techs to let you keep your screen name so you can and start over if that is what you prefer.

I would really dislike seeing our guild split up in the process, but I"m not sure as far along as everyone in our guild is what the reasoning would be behind wanting a wipe? If new players are put on a new "world" -- then the playing field is level for them, so that issue would be moot.

Just my thoughts, not saying anyone else's opinion or desires aren't valid.

Pilot

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Originally Posted by Turkey

I'm surprised that the devs have no plans to reset the game after the closed beta.

Let's put away our competitive greed and think this over.

This was a closed beta, meaning that only those who were invited had the pleasure of trying out CEO. It is completely unfair that only the selected few get to keep everything they hoarded even before the game entered the open beta phase.

I acknowledge that the poll results slighty favored a no-wipe, but those results were almost entirely based on the opinions (or rather, wish) of the closed beta testers.

We already have the experience we need to build a better, more efficient empire. Can we not let the new comers start on even footing?

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The votes are in and the tribe has spoken, so that is all. Once again the world is safe because Democracy has ruled and the people are united in voice.
"So say we all."

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Originally Posted by Bloodmoon

The votes are in and the tribe has spoken, so that is all. Once again the world is safe because Democracy has ruled and the people are united in voice.
"So say we all."

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You really should look up the meaning of the word "all".

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Originally Posted by ShuttlePilot

It's simple enough to move to the new server, and before going ask the Ubi_techs to let you keep your screen name so you can and start over if that is what you prefer.

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You can't be on multiple servers with a single account. : / I'm just hoping I can be reset back to day 1 and join the new server.

I'd like to see a wipe myself, but I guess it'd be alright to just stay where I'm at also.

I thought the decision was already made, so why are we rehashing this all over again? If we don't like the out come of a vote we just continue to bug everyone till the vote changes.

I wonder if after a wipe, most of remaining players would be non-paying players (as in players who don't purchase gems)

Wipe, no wipe, it's fair to some and unfair to others. Since the primary job of game developers is to give me, the customer, the best experience my money can buy.
I suggest a compromise. Allow a modification to give us the option to move our buildings for free. Then after everyone gets that chance, charge gems to move buildings.
Allow us to wipe if we want.
It's mostly about trying to be fair to everyone. Yet, as we know, nothing is ever fair to everybody.

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Originally Posted by Dark_Assassin

I thought the decision was already made, so why are we rehashing this all over again? If we don't like the out come of a vote we just continue to bug everyone till the vote changes.

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Wait, I thought that's how American presidential elections were held?

I highly doubt there will be a wipe considering the gem shop has just opened.

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Originally Posted by BB_Mistapink

I highly doubt there will be a wipe considering the gem shop has just opened.

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What does that have to do with anything?

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Originally Posted by SirRoy

Wipe, no wipe, it's fair to some and unfair to others. Since the primary job of game developers is to give me, the customer, the best experience my money can buy.
I suggest a compromise. Allow a modification to give us the option to move our buildings for free. Then after everyone gets that chance, charge gems to move buildings.
Allow us to wipe if we want.
It's mostly about trying to be fair to everyone. Yet, as we know, nothing is ever fair to everybody.

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Yes SirRoy. We can, however, make it fair for the majority.
Unless CEO is incapable of at least doubling the player base once it goes live, a no-wipe will infact be unfair for the majority of the players.