Using other global chats

It has come to our attention that many players would like to discuss topics that may not be suited for "Global-1", which is meant for discussion about game and friendly conversations.

If you wish to talk about other subjects, you can go to another global-X for these kinds of discussions such as religion or politics or anything that a majority of players may find offensive.

The reason for this posting, is to let the players know they can have a place to discuss things. You may not think that topics listed above are offensive yourself but they can be. Be Respectful of your other players and help keep global-1 clean.

To join another channel please follow the instructions below

Type /joinChat global-X (X = number)

Mistapink, would it be possible to add an additional chat tab, just so that you don't have to leave global-1 entirely to use the additional global options. Its kind of a pain to constantly reload chat windows, especially when you get a server time out, or game freeze.

I agree with LadyTerra. Trade shouldn't be traded through a chat tab it should be traded through separate trade GUI and trade offers should be made in the trade box and not in Global-1.

One more minor request,
Could you put the chat command in the log in tips? No where in the game does it tell you how to use chat commands and what they are. You won't see anywhere in the game to use /help to get said chat commands. How are players supposed to know that these options exist if they aren't interested in using the forum (which, only 20% of players use).:confused:

I agree with LadyTerra, it does get tiresome to have to tell people how to ignore etc. when they ask IF and how to do it.
Also another Global and/or an optional "trade chat" tab would be much appreciated and I am sure it would be frequently used. Too many times "help" turns into another global tab and the "help" people just get lost in the shuffle in BOTH tabs.

Personally I'm for a trade tab, just to ease some of the channel clutter. But then I have mixed feelings for it because the chat is starting to become very unwelcoming when you have a certain few players who badger and hound people when they veer slightly off topic. Some creep kept whispering me telling me I should talk in help unless I'm asking for or helping others. Which seems a bit awkward considering it was 4am and no one was on or being hindered from the help available. Then you have the same certain people in global chat telling people they shouldn't ask for help in global, which makes sense you'd be more likely to get help in /help but sometimes someone in global knows something someone in help doesn't...To sum it up, you should clarify that off topic conversation during non-peak hours aren't allowed and harassment from members telling people not to talk in the channels is entirely rude and disrespectful. :3 Just my two coins worth.

Yeah, let's all make more STUPID rules for chat so NO one every wants to go on it. The babysitters in the chat room are ridiculous. Children who play this or any game on the internet should be watched by their parents. ITS NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE YOUR BRATS DON'T READ A BAD WORD. Somehow I got chat-banned and no explanation was sent.

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Originally Posted by Kolnie

Yeah, let's all make more STUPID rules for chat so NO one every wants to go on it. The babysitters in the chat room are ridiculous. Children who play this or any game on the internet should be watched by their parents. ITS NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE YOUR BRATS DON'T READ A BAD WORD. Somehow I got chat-banned and no explanation was sent.

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Some of us grown ups do not want to read foul language is appropriate for the chat.
Not all people need to curse and swear to get a point across.
We all agreed to the ToS.

I have to say that I was truely appalled at the behavior of the majority of the players in global during Monday's Trivia. In fact, it was so bad, if I was the GM, I would have canceled the entire event...period
Global has gotten way out of hand and I don't see that UBI/BlueByte are doing anything about it.

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Originally Posted by IdentErr

Personally I'm for a trade tab, just to ease some of the channel clutter. But then I have mixed feelings for it because the chat is starting to become very unwelcoming when you have a certain few players who badger and hound people when they veer slightly off topic. Some creep kept whispering me telling me I should talk in help unless I'm asking for or helping others. Which seems a bit awkward considering it was 4am and no one was on or being hindered from the help available. Then you have the same certain people in global chat telling people they shouldn't ask for help in global, which makes sense you'd be more likely to get help in /help but sometimes someone in global knows something someone in help doesn't...To sum it up, you should clarify that off topic conversation during non-peak hours aren't allowed and harassment from members telling people not to talk in the channels is entirely rude and disrespectful. :3 Just my two coins worth.

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I concur.
The help tab trolls who try to impose some rule over others are on some power and control trip.
Players posting discrete and concise recruitment or trade offers have every right to use both chats.
Hopefully, those of us who do will be considerate of others using the chat.

Another tab for trades would be awesome, but even if we get one, that does not mean people could not still use global and help to post offers.
Just as it means people would not be prohibited for chatting in trade tab about other topics.
No one player or group of players has exclusive domain over and chat tabs except whispers and guild chats.

On that note, could we get a special Begging Tab?

If we had a wow like Auction house. we would have no more need for trade spam.

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law or rule respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a redress of grievances.

This law is solid stone. Corporations and private citizens alike are required, by law, to respect this unabridged guarentee and it is the responsability of the people to make sure it is enforced.

While i think it's great that your administrative staff is trying to maintain organization and fair gameplay, none of the employees of your comany, or your company as an entity has any right to infringe upon the law. By your own rules no less.

There was a recent incident where an administrator, in game, became over-zealous with his omnipotent banning powers and began to dictate which topics could and could not, respectively, be discussed. By the letter of United States Law, this admin created victims out of every american citizen in participation at the time.

Now, i'm in no way, the kind of person who has the time, dedication or desire to persue such a legal reprisal, but if the liability continues, it's just a matter of time until some rich, aarogant lawer invested person takes a stand.

What does this mean and why am i even saying it? Because sometimes corporations attempt to implement policy or rule that they are not legally entitled. This creates a huge liability for a company and is the leading cause of bankruptcy for small up and coming game design companies.

I would hate, more than anything, to see that happen in this case. Do what you like. At least i put it out there.

Why is this an argument in every online game I have ever participated on? Is it so hard to respect the Terms of Use that you agreed to when signing up for this game? Pointless debate. Moving on.

How is the Global-7 Trade thing going? I have popped in a couple times but never saw any activity.

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Originally Posted by SirDet

Why is this an argument in every online game I have ever participated on? Is it so hard to respect the Terms of Use that you agreed to when signing up for this game? Pointless debate. Moving on.

How is the Global-7 Trade thing going? I have popped in a couple times but never saw any activity.

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It is often times an issue in games, due to companies implementing policy that they are not legally entitled. Doesn't matter what the user agreement said; if it wasn't legal to begin with, it's not binding and is therefore defective.

I only say this for the benefit of the company and no one else. It's their sole responsibility to make sure that their terms of use fall within national and international guidelines and currently they do not.

I really don't care if they change them or not. I'm just trying to give a heads up. that's all.

I hate to break it to you, but you are quoting Domestic Law, and Domestic law is in subjection to international law if you are part of nato.

In this case, The internet falls under international, but the violation of that law is held in court of where the servers are.

in other words, if you do something like pirating and the server is in cali, you go to cali to court, if its in england you go to england etc.


Lastly, Freedom of speech does not exist on the internet. Get that through your head.
Your ability to speak go's out the window when you log into a video game. Amazing that a video game can destroy your rights as a human.

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Originally Posted by Talar

I hate to break it to you, but you are quoting Domestic Law, and Domestic law is in subjection to international law if you are part of nato.

In this case, The internet falls under international, but the violation of that law is held in court of where the servers are.

in other words, if you do something like pirating and the server is in cali, you go to cali to court, if its in england you go to england etc.


Lastly, Freedom of speech does not exist on the internet. Get that through your head.
Your ability to speak go's out the window when you log into a video game. Amazing that a video game can destroy your rights as a human.

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I'd wager zynga, midway, sunsoft and every other major gaming corporation that has had to deal with and survived multi-hundred thousand dollar law suits would offer a much different view about ones rights online. in the united states or abroad.

like is said; i don't really care. just offering a heads up to the company.

It's just a matter of time until we truly find out tho, if admin behavior like was exhibited this afternoon persists. all it takes is for one person to become motivated in such a way to make corporate business a living nightmare for it's perspective employees and executives. in turn, that would put the kibosh on our participation as well.

it's really not difficult for a company to observe the obvious rights and laws that absolutely can not be bypassed; and often times the liability is the action of a single employee, whose actions are/were unbeknownst to the rest of the staff.

Anyway, on the brighter note, I agree with a need for another chat, I understand it wouldn't keep kids or anything from going in there, but at least they could get away if they feel uncomfortable, or if adults just don't like vulgar language. I understand the point, but it would make a little more sense than having to change global chats since no one would go to any...

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Originally Posted by pragmatic

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law or rule respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a redress of grievances.

This law is solid stone. Corporations and private citizens alike are required, by law, to respect this unabridged guarentee and it is the responsability of the people to make sure it is enforced.

While i think it's great that your administrative staff is trying to maintain organization and fair gameplay, none of the employees of your comany, or your company as an entity has any right to infringe upon the law. By your own rules no less.

There was a recent incident where an administrator, in game, became over-zealous with his omnipotent banning powers and began to dictate which topics could and could not, respectively, be discussed. By the letter of United States Law, this admin created victims out of every american citizen in participation at the time.

Now, i'm in no way, the kind of person who has the time, dedication or desire to persue such a legal reprisal, but if the liability continues, it's just a matter of time until some rich, aarogant lawer invested person takes a stand.

What does this mean and why am i even saying it? Because sometimes corporations attempt to implement policy or rule that they are not legally entitled. This creates a huge liability for a company and is the leading cause of bankruptcy for small up and coming game design companies.

I would hate, more than anything, to see that happen in this case. Do what you like. At least i put it out there.

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The First Amendment is directly for use in a public venue, not a private one. As this forum is owned and operated by Ubisoft it has our rules in place. So, for example, if a player makes an offensive remark, the player in question would have to comply or will be removed from the game.

The rules that are set in the game are from the Code of Conduct and the Terms of Service. These dictate what can and cannot be talked about in the game, as well as the ramifications of such actions.

I do understand your point of view on this matter, but as you made the account you agreed to follow and adhere to these rules.

Does this mean that global-1 won't be full of people saying women only exist to make men sandwiches as well now? That stuff got so tiresome in my first week here that I stopped paying attention to global chat entirely after a few days.

It also doesn't exactly make the best advertisement to my friends to have to warn them about that particular facet of the game either.

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Originally Posted by Suzera

Does this mean that global-1 won't be full of people saying women only exist to make men sandwiches as well now? That stuff got so tiresome in my first week here that I stopped paying attention to global chat entirely after a few days.

It also doesn't exactly make the best advertisement to my friends to have to warn them about that particular facet of the game either.

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WE are more progressive in my guild. We let women make baskets as well as sandwiches :P
All joking aside. The Internet chat brings out the worst in some people.
/ignoreadd misogynist is one solution.
The mods do what they can, but it's an impossible task.
Joining a guild gives people access to guild chats.
Our chat has zero tolerance for gross ignorance.
I think a separate chat for level 26 and over would be awesome.

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Originally Posted by BB_MrGrimm

The First Amendment is directly for use in a public venue, not a private one. As this forum is owned and operated by Ubisoft it has our rules in place. So, for example, if a player makes an offensive remark, the player in question would have to comply or will be removed from the game.

The rules that are set in the game are from the Code of Conduct and the Terms of Service. These dictate what can and cannot be talked about in the game, as well as the ramifications of such actions.

I do understand your point of view on this matter, but as you made the account you agreed to follow and adhere to these rules.

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Thanks for taking the time to compose your reply. As a master of graphing, importing, rendering and animating digital gaming art, scripts, and backgrounds, on various dopesheets, node editors and development programs, i know how thin one's time can be stretched.

I'm not saying that you can't enforce whichever rules you choose to implement. I'm just saying that it's not possible to enforce this one, in any realistic way, without completely shutting down the venue which puts bread on your table.

The first amendment (religion and free expression) is more than a guarantee in any public or private forum; it's a symbol of something that can not be taken away from people no matter how many are slaughtered, tried or outcast.

I'm sure everyone has noticed what transpires each time any government (mach or legitimate) attempts to enforce upon them an exercise of control. More than just the single individual in question at the time speak up. No one wants to see their neighbor denied what this amendment symbolizes. Most will cast their lot with a revolt before they will abide by blatant, flagrant and unneeded censorship.

While i understand and empathize with your need for organization in any creation and invention that you invest in; it can never replace freedom without the loss of all; creation, organization and freedom alike.

The best government is the government that governs least. Sometimes we have to ask ourselves; are the things we have done the actions of the best government?

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Originally Posted by pragmatic

Thanks for taking the time to compose your reply. As a master of graphing, importing, rendering and animating digital gaming art, scripts, and backgrounds, on various dopesheets, node editors and development programs, i know how thin one's time can be stretched.

I'm not saying that you can't enforce whichever rules you choose to implement. I'm just saying that it's not possible to enforce this one, in any realistic way, without completely shutting down the venue which puts bread on your table.

The first amendment (religion and free expression) is more than a guarantee in any public or private forum; it's a symbol of something that can not be taken away from people no matter how many are slaughtered, tried or outcast.

I'm sure everyone has noticed what transpires each time any government (mach or legitimate) attempts to enforce upon them an exercise of control. More than just the single individual in question at the time speak up. No one wants to see their neighbor denied what this amendment symbolizes. Most will cast their lot with a revolt before they will abide by blatant, flagrant and unneeded censorship.

While i understand and empathize with your need for organization in any creation and invention that you invest in; it can never replace freedom without the loss of all; creation, organization and freedom alike.

The best government is the government that governs least. Sometimes we have to ask ourselves; are the things we have done the actions of the best government?

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This is not a government, it is a company. We have never stated you cannot talk about politics or religion, we have simply stated that if you wish to talk about such things to switch to another chat channel as Global-1 is for general discussion as well as game discussion.

This is not the place to have political debate either, as this thread is intended to give information to players on how to switch to another global chat.

This thread will be locked as no further discussion is needed on this matter.

P.S. The Supreme Court had unanimously ruled that while the First Amendment may allow freedom of speech, private property owners/companies may regulate what can and cannot be said on the property. Constitutional rights are only violated when the government and not a private citizen/company/organization tries to limit freedom of speech. (Pruneyard Shopping Center v. Robins, 447 U.S. 74)