hardwood upgrade needs changing

alright hi, this is my first post so i hope i found the right section to voice what i need :p

i'm a level 19, and gold is the most valuable resource for me right now, second only to building permits >.<
so i'm building my manufacturing of hardwood, and i needed to upgrade my hardwood sawmills. but sadly, the upgrade costs 100 gold per. >.<
this makes no sense what so ever, and while i may be new to settlers ONLINE, i am not new to the general idea (i have the very first settlers rise of a empire game) so can we have this changed please? i see no other way to fix this because gold is a multi-player currency :confused:

i think the difficulty of getting hwp is necessary...trading and selling for gold is at the heart of a civilization...and this is no exception

Make more sawmills or trade for gold to upgrade them.

I have too much gold. I sent my explorer out to look for treasure ever chance I got. Now I am maxed out. I need more hardwood. It seems really slow to build up a good supply.

I Sure hope there is no change to the way things Have been and are now. There are alot of us that STOP playing games, due to all the Nerfing, to make eaisier. Most have had to work for where they are. So Hopefully this is not nerfed. All games are not made easy. That is the FUN of different types of games. Fushigi PaladinHouse

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Originally Posted by Petrovich

I have too much gold. I sent my explorer out to look for treasure ever chance I got. Now I am maxed out. I need more hardwood. It seems really slow to build up a good supply.

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Trade your gold for hardwood problem solved

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Originally Posted by Fushigi

I Sure hope there is no change to the way things Have been and are now. There are alot of us that STOP playing games, due to all the Nerfing, to make eaisier. Most have had to work for where they are. So Hopefully this is not nerfed. All games are not made easy. That is the FUN of different types of games. Fushigi PaladinHouse

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Well you are not actually right. Gold value of all resources keeps only dropping. So for old players it was way much easier to acquire gold than to new ones. When I started playing usual price for stack of Marble was around 20-25 GCs and today its ~15 GC. This game has a serious problem with economy. And it may even fail at getting new players (that includes new gem buyers), because for newbies getting gold even for lv2 upgrades is a serious pain. This game seriously needs some means to drain gold/resources from High level players who already upgraded everything and are just flooding the market with low offers.

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This game seriously needs some means to drain gold/resources from High level players who already upgraded everything and are just flooding the market with low offers.

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I don't see any reason to penalize the longer-term players just for having found the game earlier & as a result are farther along now. The flip side to them "flooding the market with low offers" is that it's easier to buy things you need now. Why in fact, I remember when it used to cost me 20 ~ 25 gold coins to buy a stack of marble and now I can pick that marble up for less than 15 gold coins. It's awesome!

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Originally Posted by Hobknocker

I don't see any reason to penalize the longer-term players just for having found the game earlier & as a result are farther along now. The flip side to them "flooding the market with low offers" is that it's easier to buy things you need now. Why in fact, I remember when it used to cost me 20 ~ 25 gold coins to buy a stack of marble and now I can pick that marble up for less than 15 gold coins. It's awesome!

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Where do you see a penality? Creating some temporary things worth spending those resources on wouldnt be a penality. Like for example some tower to boost troops in adventures or pvp maps when they will be aviable. And about buying stuff... its useless. I have never bought anything with GCs in the market and if new players read forums then they also wont waste gold on somewhat useless resources in the market. Because there is far more usefull stuff to spend it. And "long term players" dont actually need it much either. Ayways economy is unbalanced because this is very low demand and and huge suply so I sitll remain to what I said before: Developers rly need to find a way to make those resources usefull and increase demand that way.

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Where do you see a penality?

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Ummm, in what I quoted in my post. The part where you said, "This game seriously needs some means to drain gold/resources from High level players ..."

That's penalizing me for having played here a long time and achieved a higher level. There's a huge difference between creating new content for me to purchase and "drain gold/resources." The very concept of drain is to take away. So if you're taking away my gold/resources, that's a penalty. If you're providing new things for me to buy, and I can choose whether or not to buy them, it's not a penalty.

Personally, I think the way it's set up now is helpful. 1. The difficulty in attaining necessary resources for leveling helps prevent lower level players from upgrading too quickly which would result in bottle-necking their production chains. 2. Unlike 95% of the other games out there, this game actually requires a bit of thinking.

The "think ahead five steps" chess-style play of the game when deciding what you need, what you need to build to get what you need, what you need to build to get that too, etc, is why I keep playing.

You can make gold later in the game with coinages, but by the time you can make gold, you should already have discovered other easy ways to make gold like selling various resources (swords, coal, marble, etc).

looks guys i'm got going to argue cause i have not earned the high rank status (at level 22 now) but here is where i stand
i need upgrades to fir wood production ASAP and my stock pile is critical. i have only 86 gold left- and there is NO GOLD expected to come my way again. i really want to be stingy- but if i don't get this solved my town's economy will collapse in on itself. and you are saying i am asking for too much?

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i have only 86 gold left- and there is NO GOLD expected to come my way again.

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That really makes no sense, unless you've shut down production. Many level 3 upgrades require 100 coins, and you're at 86. That's 7 stacks of fwl at 2g/stack to get to 100.

I really don't get what you're unhappy about. The game's slow. I'm level 45 and it's slow for me. You're level 22 and it's slow for you. It's. A. Slow. Game.

Why do you need fir wood production upgrades ASAP? Are you impatient? Where's the ASAP component coming from? There's no game-imposed deadline or consequence if you don't upgrade ASAP, so really, where's the fire?

If you're having challenges with the time required to accumulate resources, how are you planning to deal with waiting 7 days for a building to upgrade?

It's. A. Slow. Game.

Ok, now I understand the problem. Everyone wants gold, and the only way to get it is through trades? Unless there is a large supply of newbies willing to part with gold for resources, there is no way to get gold, right?

You can produce gold on your own, see any number of threads on the various opinions of that endeavor. Gold is received during the daily login process, (~ 25 coins/wk), as a loot reward for many adventures, and you get some as you clear your island/level up, if I recall correctly.

The "problem" as stated by OP seems to be that it takes a long time to acquire resources for upgrades. See my prior post for why that's true.