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I have a bad feeling about this event guys n girls, so be careful what you post! They throw out a 1k gem reward to get players/guilds to reveal their best guides for adventures, and next thing you know they will use the guides against us to make it even harder to level up. Don't fall for it, and if you do, least wait until i reach lvl 50 plz :) It's obvious they are trying to get rid of blocking altogether.
BB_Katealyst, will this take effect during the next patch? Since blocking still seems to work at the moment.
Guess I'll be updating all the guides on cempire.org soon.
agreed!Quote:
Originally Posted by call-me-king
i thought blocking was part of the game
they keep changing to rules on us and will not let us use strategy
i thought online game was meant to challenge are minds not make things simple and stale
I have to agree with a previous poster about being very careful what we post here. It has my spidey sense tingling. Why offer them the very tactics we have re-vamped after they went and changed the rules on us? We as a community have figured out a decent strategy for their adventures. Now they want us to tell them how we beat their latest and greatest "customer enhancement". Why? So they know what to change in the next patch? So they can re-write the adventures altogether?
I, like many of us, have tested a few variations and have worked around the new pathing issues. Will I post? Hell no!! I am biding my time to see what happens next? 20000 gem items, Completely screwed up our guides and maps. I've already stopped buying gems. I used to buy fairly regularly. Not anymore. I'm sure this is what they wanted. Anger the settled, high level veterans so we quit. Then there's not so many well informed players to worry about, they can change anything they want.
So... enjoy your guide making, re-vamp those maps. Maybe you'll get some gems. When your done, North Korea is looking for missile technology.
Well things like this is the reason why games die.
You change one important part of the game which interest players they will leave.
The blocks gave a challenge to the players something to twist there mind around, those players will not stay if you take that away from them.
I have seen games died for stupid reason.
Beside the blocks are a risk to use anyway if we fail the cost is very high.
I think players should have the freedom to decide how they want to play.
Do the double/triple blocks still work after the pathing changes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenith
I'm a relatively new player of settlers online game & without the blocking being applicable anymore I can no longer gather the resources to finish some of "easiest" of adventures, as it is I was only just finishing Island of the Pirates & just managing Traitors, now since the recent change I couldn't even finish traitors. I also agree with a few of the previous post about making the game boring, I mean taking away the 1 & only exciting aspect of the game is insane, if this is the way there going then my sister, friends & myself will simply stop playing, it wouldn't be the first time we've done this.
Basically, if they wanted to give the older players more a challange, why not just create new adventures???
I feel the only way to get you guys to listen is to post and pray for a miracle.
Take a poll of what players concerns are before you make drastic changes. Many players have invested hundreds of hours into this game between playing, forum posting, adventure guides and guild related activities. It's a slap in the face to such players when you take away a great strategy like blocking, and make this game less of a strategic game and more of a mindless farming game. I would hope player satisfaction is your number one priority, but have to say with all the recent Gem Items coming into play and contests with built in ways to purchase items, I wonder. I mean couldn't we just focus on the things that players want like, fewer glitches, being able to log in every time, less server lag, some sort of voluntary PvP and maybe an upgrade to a very elementary battle system?
You guys know that BBs stated goal is to eliminate blocking and by submitting guides with blocking, you may (likely are) helping them to eliminate blocking! Fortunately, I'm almost 50 now so it will have little impact on me when they eliminate blocking. But anyone else trying to level will have a much longer haul of it.
It sucks!!!!!
BB has all the subtlety of a 3 year old. Think about the contests they've run so far ... what are the prizes? Usually 50 gems and maybe a decorative item for your island, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Starfire512
So all of a sudden, here's 1,000 gems! to participate in a "Best Guide" competition. Gee, you think they REALLY, REALLY, REALLY wanna see your guides or what? And why would that be? Duh! To figure out where the loop holes are now, so they can close them.
Nice move on posting them here, folks. Pure genius.
Wow, conspiracy theories are fun and all, but does anyone think that maybe this was an effort to try and calm down the people who are still pissed about the change? And the prizes are better because making a guide requires more work than submitting a screenshot?
Don't get me wrong, the path changes annoyed me too, but I have trouble picturing the devs coming up with this contest whilst greedily rubbing their hands together and cackling maniacally.
I must agree as well. Also figuring that with all these details written down ... anyone can come and read and use the information being placed here for this event. I am assuming and it is my own opinion! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FRANKENCHRIST
Why Kate so you can nerf them again? you want to add more strategic thinking? add new adventures or intro PVP. IDIOTS ! changing up all the hard work weve already put in? If you continue your process of backwards thinking i will be leaving this game entirely and i know im not alone.
Wow, how sad is it that you're taking down posts with dissenting viewpoints. Did Kim Jong Un teach you that trick?
Especially sad considering that at least some of those viewpoints also informed people that perhaps the ulterior motive for this Guide contest was to learn exactly how people are completing adventures today so that you figure out the next set of changes to make to further reduce the strategy used in adventuring.
Meanwhile, bring on some more $100 buildings for the masses!
I guess I don't expect to see this post survive long, but then again, you probably don't really expect me to stick around anymore either.
Awesome. Thanks for the good times. It's sad you're taking the game in this direction. Best wishes to you all.
This truly is the saddest contest I've ever seen. You are asking us to figure out (and share with you) how to undo the mess you created by breaking something that didn't need fixing. Here is the solution: undo the repathing! I'll give you 1,000 gems if you do.
Kate, I don't think anyone objects to the pathing changes. As your BB cohort pointed out,
it's an opportunity to rethink adventures some of us have completed many times. In fact,
you guys could do more to keep the game interesting and fresh for experienced players.
Maybe move the camps around a little every few months, or change the bandit configurations,
or has been suggested add a random element.
But the universal outcry is that blocking strategies are a big part your players, and gem buyers, enjoy.
What part of that sentence don't your developers understand?? "Give the customer what he wants"
is generally a good business model. You guys made a huge mistake with this.
I've seen many good suggestions on how you can evolve the game to keep up long term interest,
and that's where your future gem sales will come from. You should listen to your customers!
And no matter how nicely you put it, or what contest you invent, no one from BB has attempted to
explain the reasoning behind this horrific change. Your customers feel the game has been diminished,
and that' the bottom line.
I hope you guys rethink this
Wow. You deleted my husband's post? Sorry we don't agree with you all. What's next? Are you going to ban me next for disagreeing?
Despite being one of seemingly few US bases guide makers, I will be boycotting this event since it is BB stated intent to eliminate blocking and by providing guides as to how to block, it will make it easier to for BB to do that.
Blocking is a challenge and many of those blocks have a significant risk factor involved. *** If your willing to take the risks, you should gain an additional reward (lower losses). ***
IMHO, BB stated effort to eliminate blocking will only injure their player base reducing it significantly. I don't see any need now to ever buy Gems again because the player base is thin enough as it is (certainly at the higher levels). Pouring good money after bad seems not wise.
Starfire512
Hey Guys,
I am not trying to silence your objections. In fact, I appreciate the feedback! I need it in order to push feedback to the developers. What I am trying to do is get it off of this event thread. I understand that everyone is a bit heated, but I think that there was ultimately a misunderstanding with what was communicated. We are NOT taking out advanced blocking. We are not trying to ruin your game experiences. The only changes that were made was the change in pathing.
Please give me your feedback in the thread here.
I will be deleting these posts tomorrow, but I really hope you understand that I am in no way trying to diminish the issue. I simply am trying to keep this event thread clean and organized.
-Katealyst
Apologies,
I wasn't aware that there was a proper venue for dissenting posts. I'm on my way there to check out how they were cut & pasted.
Oh wait... they weren't. Just deleted.
Hmmm, did you try ASKING? No, not until after the comments appeared here, and you deleted them. And you didn't even comment on deleting them until people called you out on it. Yet you think there was a "misunderstanding with what was communicated." Find a mirror and look in it. There's your problem, right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB_Katealyst
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Now Kate, how long exactly do you think it took me to create that guide? Many many runs through the adventure, and more losses than I can ever care to remember. Know that with your companies latest bs scam to ruin all our hard work, things like this will likely never be done again. So thank you for ruining the better part of 3 months worth of work.
Tomorrow I will be moving all of these posts to a new thread. I know you guys are frustrated, and we do want your feedback. Again, these changes were implemented to fix bugs in the game, not to spite players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thevano
advanced blocking does indeed still work, however single recruit blocking no longer works; as soon as the general with the single rec is defeated, the attacking general jumps out of the leader camp and heads to the camp that was being blocked. most of you already know this. my point is, i'm not sure if they're tryin to do away with blocking altogether, or just the single recruit blocks. i personally have always felt single recruit blocks were a bit cheap, and i always enjoyed finding the best advanced block possible for a camp instead. due to my enjoyment of this, and with it being a large chunk of the strategy that goes into doing adventures, if advanced blocks become no longer possible due to future changes, i will be quitting this game, as lvling will become even more of a grind than it already is. those of you who are in agreement on this, especially those of you who buy gems on a fairly regular basis, please post your agreement to this. maybe if enough people speak out as being against it, we can prevent it from happeningQuote:
Originally Posted by Call-Me-KIng
Hear, hear. I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by LostSoul913
Doesn't matter. Deleting the posts in the first place was wrong. (I see they have been put back like nothing ever happened) Sort of the last straw with game. My wife and I are shutting down our islands tonight. It was a lot of fun before you guys started telling us what was best for us. Several other games out there to spend our money on. Yes, we spent money here. It's a shame tho, so close to level 50.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB_Katealyst
And before anyone tries to use it, The guide Xenith was in a hurry to post first does not take into account the new pathing. Just so you don't lose units without doing your own estimations and calculations.
Do these guides have to ONLY be guides that use the new pathing?
If so, then Xenith's 2 guides in the beginning may need to be pulled from the contest. The Outlaws one does have a normal block in it that for sure no longer works. As for the BK one that he posted, i'm not sure yet on what the proper pathing would be with the new system, or if the blocks work the way they are posted on that guide. *CONFIRMED: his pathing on the BK guide IS NOT for the new pathing... my opinion is it should not be counted towards the competition.
My thoughts on doing adventures. I started level 2 HORSEBACKfor the second time and preface stated there were 15 camps. I had 3 generals andf o ver 600 troops.near the end of the game I made 100 recruits and the computer sent them to the mayors house not to my general and time ran out. I battled 18 camps and still had to battle 3 or 4 more leader camps. When game ended Istill had approx. 125 troops. During all the battles I lost 347 recruits, 108 militia, 101 longbowmen, 86 bowman and 50 calvary (which are almost worthless in this adventure.)With the 3 generals , I used 1000 troops. In my opinion each general needs more troops, at least 50 but not more than 200. My XP level is 36, if and when I enter a level 3 or 4 adventure how many more troops will I need to advance through to the end and how many more times will I have to send my generals back through the time zone to make the necessary troops to finish the adventure. Linc
And who is testing to see that the guides actually work? No good to award a player 1k gems only to find that the guide is crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenith
Hmmm, perhaps you've purchased several gem mines & endless copper mines as well? Is the imagery working for you yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by laRochelle
My condolences to you. The goal of guides (and combat simulator) is to reduce this. I don't think I've ever lost a longbow or militia on that adventure, for example. Aside from fewer losses, the goal is to fight fewer camps - thus reducing the time needed to run the adventure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Linc28
I hope that is helpful, but we'll all have to see what BB decides to do from here on...
i will wait and see. no offense to u katealyst, but i have grown to distrust the company that built this game. they may tell you that advanced blocking will not be taken out, but they could be lying to you, being one of the closest in the company to the actual players. or, you could be lying to us, in an attempt to get people buying more gems asap. so i believe i will wait till PvP comes out to decide if this game is worth spending gems on. hopefully by then all the planned changes, or at least the 1's that drastically affect gameplay, will be done, and i can truly get a feel for how much i enjoy this gameQuote:
Originally Posted by BB_Katealyst
man skynet is for real, its eating into our lives in the form of addiction, and wants to know our plans before it attacks us, where and who is John Connor
practice well on easy advs. and then slowly move up
Houses the comments that were poste don the Adventure Guide Event thread.
yea not removing blocks huQuote:
Originally Posted by BB_Katealyst
was that a lie to shut us up
there a new bug in the game preventing blocking and when i sent in a ticket in about it i got this
Thank you for sending in your question. If you are trying to block the general will not continue to the intended camp until the camp in front of them is defeated.
yes clearly you are preventing blocks and you lied straight to us knowing this fully.