Fast Finish Clarification/Comment Poll

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08-31-12 10:50 pm
LostSoul913

Fast Finish Clarification/Comment Poll

it has come to my attention that there are differing views on what exactly the term fast finish (FF) means when auctioning a loot spot. some people believe FF automatically means the buyer should be ready to send their gen immediately. others believe as long as the gen is sent within an hr its ok. still others seem to believe that FF puts no constraints on the buyers availability, and if the seller needs speed they should specify this in the auction description.

i would like to see comments from evry1 who participates in auction on this subject. plz, no arguing, if u dont agree w some1 else's point of view on this jus let it be for now. after a week we can all tally up the votes, and tht can be the end of it.
09-01-12 01:09 am
TheSource

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostSoul913

it has come to my attention that there are differing views on what exactly the term fast finish (FF) means when auctioning a loot spot. some people believe FF automatically means the buyer should be ready to send their gen immediately. others believe as long as the gen is sent within an hr its ok. still others seem to believe that FF puts no constraints on the buyers availability, and if the seller needs speed they should specify this in the auction description.

i would like to see comments from evry1 who participates in auction on this subject. plz, no arguing, if u dont agree w some1 else's point of view on this jus let it be for now. after a week we can all tally up the votes, and tht can be the end of it.

Fast Finish should mean its ready to go, but I guess sellers should stress must send general ASAP if they want it finished fast
09-01-12 03:01 am
Chasmanic

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSource

Fast Finish should mean its ready to go, but I guess sellers should stress must send general ASAP if they want it finished fast

This is what I take FF to mean. Player #1 is ready to end it, no more.
09-02-12 03:52 pm
Draconus2004

It implies the player is ready to finish it soon as a tag is made. Especially when multiple lootspots are at stake, it might not be the adventure starter, but the other lootspot player that needs the finish soon.
09-02-12 11:10 pm
Dovahkin341

A FF is just that, you send your gen, tag and the adventure opener finishes it. If you want to take your time or tag later then get a lootspot early on in the adventure for less coin don't hold up the other lootspotter and the adventure runner, its rude unless otherwise agreed to. Plus i think UBI should add a boot feature to adventures....too many times i have been on an adventure or heard from others where a loot spotter has turned up with multiple gens and started wiping camps out, thats stealing exp from the adventure runner, not right.
09-03-12 05:48 am
barenski

we need to swap spots, so only 1 is sold, 1 person is less likely to delay tag, and itll take half of spots of the market, increasing loot spot price
09-03-12 08:17 am
Dovahkin341

excellent idea barenski, as it is auction house has become a revolving door of bk ls, meat depos and granite, no wonder people have lost interest :S
09-03-12 09:20 am
EpsilonSilver

I have been trapped in a few lootspots and had people take forever to tag in lootspots I sold.
This is getting really frustrating as I watch lootspots I could be doing get sold to others.
It may be time to start a list of players who do not send or finish fast.
09-10-12 05:44 am
LadyyLushyy

I definatly think there should be some guidelines put in Place especially after a nightmare from EpsilionSilver.... Will post pictures as to why never again I'll buy off him again.http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/100/eplsdb.jpg/

And heres the following corrispondence..... Read from the bottom up as copy and paste'd

how about my next db ls 1/2 price

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LushyLady:

Then keep us informed! The other looter and I were able to finish the boss without any issues, ya may want to Customer Service Report the issue."

I am Far from crying about the issues from yesterday but as you can see i am trying to sort them with you, It was a fair and justified offer for a refund regardless of 'not being able' to complete the last camp, If you had made me aware of it at the time then this wouldnt have happened...
Immaturity shows me your lack of communication on the issue its not all about you! you sold the LS and didnt hold up your end of the deal. Didnt say you were having issues, as i am very willing to help others is asked.
All im asking is a partial refund as stated and to leave it there.

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EpsilonSilver:

Evidently you have not given me any benefit of any doubt.

I have run dozans of adventures where I sold ff ls.

I spend 2 days building the 1000 cavs to run this adventure.

For some reason, after I sent ALL my attacks, this leasder did not die.

I sent an additional 200 cav AND 250 soldiers to try and finish it off after having done evrything right, AND THEY DIED TOO.

This was so far beyond my control and there was nothing I could do.
After many frustrating hourd=s of trying yo finish this adventure, I send ANOTHER 200 cav (Total 1400) and finally ended up falling asleep.

Then when I logged in I catch all this hell.

Is this the first time something in life didn't go your way? It was certainly not the foirst time something I thought waas under my control turned out not to be. I have been trapped in LS that were sold as FF. Did I rant and rave and threaten and slander? No, I took it in stride, as you should too.

I would never mis advertise something to rip someone off. This was one of those things that happens in the game sometimes. It happens to all of us.

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LushyLady:

I am very unhappy with the way you sold me your DB LS, supposed to be Fast finish but ended up being over 7 hours and BernardKiel and I had to finish it off.... I gave you the benefit of the doubt as i have heard bad things about you. I will say you have held up all of the Sales side of things but how can you justify this adventure as being a FF? I used 185 cav and who know with the other person....not even a message to tell me you were logging off and then i looked at your post in forum about this exact same thing!!!
So i have worked out that in all fairness you should be paying me 570gc for loss of cav and time spent not being on other LS. I hope to be hearing from you asap to resolve this issue.
I have also made my guild aware of what has happened.
09-10-12 05:54 pm
bombcar

BK LS FF = I have a Black Knights LootSlot available, I will finish right after you tag (reasonable tag time less than one hour expected even with a slow general).

BK LS FF Fast General Needed = I have a BK LS, but you MUST have a 15 minute transfer general ready to go.

In both cases you' shouldn't bid if you don't have a general available, AND able to accept the invitation right away. Also keep your blood pressure down by avoiding certain players.
09-11-12 12:19 pm
EpsilonSilver

Some things are beyond our control.
It has happened to all of us.
This does not mean it was intended, nor should we expect perfection when we buy a lootspot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyyLushyy

I definatly think there should be some guidelines put in Place especially after a nightmare from EpsilionSilver.... Will post pictures as to why never again I'll buy off him again.http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/100/eplsdb.jpg/

And heres the following corrispondence..... Read from the bottom up as copy and paste'd

how about my next db ls 1/2 price

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LushyLady:

Then keep us informed! The other looter and I were able to finish the boss without any issues, ya may want to Customer Service Report the issue."

I am Far from crying about the issues from yesterday but as you can see i am trying to sort them with you, It was a fair and justified offer for a refund regardless of 'not being able' to complete the last camp, If you had made me aware of it at the time then this wouldnt have happened...
Immaturity shows me your lack of communication on the issue its not all about you! you sold the LS and didnt hold up your end of the deal. Didnt say you were having issues, as i am very willing to help others is asked.
All im asking is a partial refund as stated and to leave it there.

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EpsilonSilver:

Evidently you have not given me any benefit of any doubt.

I have run dozans of adventures where I sold ff ls.

I spend 2 days building the 1000 cavs to run this adventure.

For some reason, after I sent ALL my attacks, this leasder did not die.

I sent an additional 200 cav AND 250 soldiers to try and finish it off after having done evrything right, AND THEY DIED TOO.

This was so far beyond my control and there was nothing I could do.
After many frustrating hourd=s of trying yo finish this adventure, I send ANOTHER 200 cav (Total 1400) and finally ended up falling asleep.

Then when I logged in I catch all this hell.

Is this the first time something in life didn't go your way? It was certainly not the foirst time something I thought waas under my control turned out not to be. I have been trapped in LS that were sold as FF. Did I rant and rave and threaten and slander? No, I took it in stride, as you should too.

I would never mis advertise something to rip someone off. This was one of those things that happens in the game sometimes. It happens to all of us.

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LushyLady:

I am very unhappy with the way you sold me your DB LS, supposed to be Fast finish but ended up being over 7 hours and BernardKiel and I had to finish it off.... I gave you the benefit of the doubt as i have heard bad things about you. I will say you have held up all of the Sales side of things but how can you justify this adventure as being a FF? I used 185 cav and who know with the other person....not even a message to tell me you were logging off and then i looked at your post in forum about this exact same thing!!!
So i have worked out that in all fairness you should be paying me 570gc for loss of cav and time spent not being on other LS. I hope to be hearing from you asap to resolve this issue.
I have also made my guild aware of what has happened.
09-12-12 03:23 pm
Draconus2004

I'd love a boot feature. I'd gladly refund cash if a person did not tag, i booted them, then resold the spot. Lot worse of a situation if one tagged, one did not, and the one that tagged is screwed. someone is going to lose.
09-12-12 08:13 pm
bombcar

Lootspots bought from [DUCK] are personally guaranteed, even if it is beyond our control.
09-13-12 12:05 am
Ungolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by EpsilonSilver

I have been trapped in a few lootspots and had people take forever to tag in lootspots I sold.
This is getting really frustrating as I watch lootspots I could be doing get sold to others.
It may be time to start a list of players who do not send or finish fast.

1. If someone one is buying a lootspot from another random person like in auction you should be rdy (the buyer) to tag asap. end of story.
2. If you received money and invited the person and they dont want to tag then finish it. Its there loss and is not a scam. This also applys to people who accept adventures and dont have a general on there island and bug it out.
3. Last you should never send and invite to anyone before getting your money.

It does not take any skill to tag a lootspot if you are looking to mess around or wait then do it with your friends or guild mates.