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How are they going to recoup me? I earned and spent 5k granite on upgrades, ran Black Knights, 2 nords and several other adv's and im about to hit level 46, 100k xp is about what i earned in the last 5 days... How can they possibly recoup that??? If they were gonna rollback why didn't they do it right away? You can't rollback a whole week thats crazy. I think this is it for me guys and gals pce
Why worry about it until we know what's going to happen? Wouldn't a rollback mean you get all your resources, gems, and adventure maps that you had at that moment in time?
Go make a stencil for the Halloween contest? Just a thought.
No a rollback means everything you did since Sunday morning (xp earned, resources traded for, advs found or bought) is gone like it never happened. It's very bad for us extremely active players. In a game like this it totally kills your spirit. idk about you but the last week for me was a very prosperous one and i don't wanna do it all over again. You see they can rollback the game but they can't rollback time. If they can give the 50+ hours of life spent playing since this happened then im cool but i dont think they have the God-like power to do that
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Originally Posted by Kastro-Zombie
What if they start to "Roll Back" every 2-3 month??? One year from now we will be at the same Lv....Playing for nothing (even if is free, spending our time is our payment; and they take away my "payment" without delivering). Made about 150k XP in last week (going to Lv. 48)...Spent about 6-7 hours every day...Playing high XP adventures almost every day (2 VtV or 2BK) in a row....
you gotta look at it from both sides mr.kasto zombie, im a very active player that was in neck n neck xp races and ive been offline while some people get to play still.
theres always gunna be someone saying no fair
roll back only mean they will roll back when the problem occur.
it mean they will roll back when no one was able to get back on so you will not lose a thing.
many players need to manage there buffs especially if they have a gold chain a roll back will help to prevent losses they would other wise occur when they couldn't get on.
there were only like 10% of the players who could not log in. a roll back screws 90% to help the 10% there has to be another way to fix it for the 10% so the 90% dont get rammed hard....in the...well you knowQuote:
Originally Posted by PWNZILLA
I think your missing the point of this rollback. I'm sure it's not being done solely for the purpose of being fair for the 10% as you say (although I'd argue it to be much more). But more to the point I think this rollback is because they have no clue how to fix the bugs in the system. And they just can't ignore the folks (like me) that can't log in no matter how much people have played this week. As I suggested in a previous post (from Tuesday I think) they should have done the rollback then. I'm guessing they had no idea how messed up the data was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninjet
Additionally, A few words to the folks that were able to play all week yet complain about losing gems or adventures or resources or time.
Now folks, we should use common sense here. Buying gems during a time when a vast number of players couldn't log in was ill advised. But this is easy to fix. They will know when you bought gems and how far back the rollback goes. Retroactive gems no problem here....
Losing resources from upgrading? Not really. You use 5k granite and 5k gold, it will be there. Sux if you started a lev 5 upgrade. Those 1-5 days would be a pain. But if you started it after Monday you shouldn't get too upset. Shaky server performance is not the time to upgrade to a 5.
Loot. Yeah this is where you lose of course. Really sux no doubt. But I'm sure EVERYONE hit granite on every adventure this week right? However those folks that went 5 for 5 on *** ore and saltpeter can't be too mad though.
Time. Yeah this one would upset me the most if I were able to log in all week. Can't blame you there. Have to be honest though.... I did enjoy the time away from the game this week. Got another hour of sleep everyday!
Anyhow, let's hope the rollback does more than just allow the folks that couldn't log in to get back online. I would hate to see the ramifications a second downtime like this would have on the community. Here is to hoping they figure out what caused this mess in the first place....
all good points but there must be something else they can do to fix this besides bone everyone out of 1 to 30 days of play time who knows how far back these problems started and if it was that far back i would have lost **** near 150k gc in upgrades and prolly 10-15k in granite. a roll back should be the last resort for a real time gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Luth
Originally Posted by Kastro-ZombieQuote:
Originally Posted by Ninjet
No a rollback means everything you did since Sunday morning (xp earned, resources traded for, advs found or bought) is gone like it never happened. It's very bad for us extremely active players. In a game like this it totally kills your spirit. idk about your but the last week for me was a very prosperous one and i don't wanna do it all over again.
Agreed also
Ninjet we are of the same though here.
Of course how we feel about the rollback will all depend on how far back they go. I must admit when writing my reply to yours I was thinking they would only go a few days before this whole mess started (like to last Friday or something). If they go back a month oh wow there will be hell to pay! I for sure would be done with the game if they went even close to that far back! I'm guessing I won't be alone....
like luth said, they should have rollback a lot earlier. I've mention this on day 2 when people can not login.
I think his point is he will lose the week of progress. Can you rollback his life and give him that time back???Quote:
Originally Posted by Falien
hello beast long time no see lol looks like ill be getting back on soon im one of the happy people out there i no where far and few between but after this i should b back online :)
If my cuz quits im gone too lol
So...I no longer have the 20k coin worth of gold deposits that I bought from another player, who bought the parrots from another player, who bought the gems from the shop.
I also no longer have the 20k coin, because I don't have the granite I sold that were rewards from the many adventures I ran in a couple day period, then further sold to make the coin to pay for the deposits.
The person I sold the granite to for uprgrades, no longer has the upgrades, no longer has the granite I sold, nor no longer can buy it from me because the adventures I ran never occured.
So I have a stack of adventures in my star menu to show for the rollback time.
I'm not saying this is how it will play out, it depends on how far they roll it back. I'm saying it's incredibly Ignorant for people to think that much isn't lost here, and not just on and individual level.
Use your head, then your mouth, see how it works out.
Much is lost if they roll back to Sunday
I rollback just means twice the fun.
just means ill get a few iotp back and ill have to re-buy 11k granite....and maybe rebuild a few stables and a friary
which my friary was gifted to me, i paid nuthing for it but that person should get their gems back....
Thats easy nothing lost just a few pieces of granite didnt cost you anything right pretty much free as far as the developers are concerned just wondering did you use gold coins which cost parrots which cost gems which cost real money does that mean real money is worthless to...... hey they should give us gems since gems are worthlessQuote:
Originally Posted by unknownksoldier1
Well what you choose? Repairing stuff for half month + missing upcoming event or roll back? I know its pain. A friend started to play this game last week so he will have to start everything again, but no one ever said you that life is fair and easy. I guess I agree with roll back as long as they do it fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSource
yeah and for real money spent you think that is a good way to do buisness?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarCaller
Would be helpful to provide some information to the community on what 'roll back' actually means in days. 1-30days as I've seen many ppl refer to seems a lil too unspecific. The very useful update page on this issue is not being updated with enough information. Is it that u have no idea still how far back u are going or would u just rather ppl log back in when (if) it is available again only to discover its now a month earlier in their progress. I'd think it better to set our expectations b4 that point. I for one don't have the energy to repeat everything I've done in the last 30days....
It has nothing to do with good/bad ways. ATM it a choice long time repairing and rather obscure chance of success or fast rollback + gem refund? I choose the later. besides, I am too lazy to search and read some rules where ever they are, but i guess they don't guarantee anything for selling gem items to other players. And if so you cant demand anything as you do that at your own risk. Well most games state that they don't encourage that and wont help if anything wrong happens so I doubt this one is an exception. BTW that's why I have a personal rule to not spend real money on internet games, because there are too many ways to loose everything you get there. For example: server shutdowns (licence expires, owners decide that they don't run it anymore or something else), rollbacks, pvp (when some gang just decides to completely eliminate you), etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSource
EDIT: But what is really weird EU servers don't have this problem. So far everything is working so I guess it's not related to updates.
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Originally Posted by StarCaller
So you agree Ubisoft should run these games for free on servers they paid for at no cost? wouldnt happen they would need advertising dollars coming and I dont see that happening as advertising to people who dont pay is like throwing away money and I dont think this game would run if there wasnt gem buyers let alone the staff that does get paid wondering where my money coming from
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Originally Posted by BenFrank
your cuz is no quitter so your not going anywhere :) see yous when the game is back up and running
I want compensation!!!!
Omg epic! :)
nice thesource. it made me laugh
The only thing I really lost due to the rollback was my adventurer had found a full adventure, he had found a traitors. Now since I've been back he found a Witch of the Swamps instead.
So as far as I'm concerned it's pretty much a wash so long as i can get the resources i need for the halloween event.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_m5KMKCqrf2...umpkins012.jpg
i need compensation for my lost gems or else ill turn loose my Pumpkin Zombies !