Suggestions PvP!

PvP; Love it or hate it, its coming.

So, let's make a list of suggestions to the Dev's that sing our tune!

1. New islands

A: These islands are separate from your home island.
B: You can build normal buildings as well as (or) titanium and granite mines.
C: A way to limit the success of the island and its users would be a limit on building licenses.
D: In order to find these Islands would be linked to your explorer.

2. PvP introduced

A: Lots of resources is being collected on this island right? So why not have a pillaging fest and introduce PvP?
B: The Player who owns the Island may build a Castle, this castle will be the main storage house As well as the leader "camp".
C: The Defender may also build forts, the equivalent of a camp on the Island to limit enemy players attacks.
D: In a way to limit the Defenders success, the camps not only count as building licenses, but have a daily fee.

3. The rewards

A: The attackers will gain complete control over the island, but only for a week. Then the original owner will be restored his island.
B: The attackers will gain the whole storehouse but, cannot build anything since he will have to return the island within the week.
C: Another option is to raze the island, but I don't know about this idea, since the defender would have to start from scratch.

4. Big Brother Guild

A: Now don't you just hate it when that guy keeps attacking you over and over? Resolve the conflict by attacking him with a loving slap from Big Brother.
B: lol but hey why not? Let's let guilds have their own Island, so large that it can hold up to 100 camps. (1 camp per member)
C: With a Castle, moats, cannons and the camps, only a War happy Guild could pull off these attacks.
D: What could make guilds a tempting offer for war? How about the members can invest resources including gc (and gc?) and the guild "bank" will have a weekly interest. Now if one was to successfully attack the Castle, one gets the spoils.
E: to be fair to the attackers, once a formal attack starts on the Island, no-one may remove anything from the castle, and the castle goes into lockdown.

Break time! whats your idea?

T_D

Thanks to Wimpy for giving me a few more ideas!

I am not a big fan of PvP. However I do see the need for some form of PvP to be added to the game to keep it
interesting. I like the island idea and would like to present a variation.

A large number of small islands are created. Each of these islands have a granite ore location and a titanium ore
location. A new type of sea going explorer is available. This explorer can find one of these islands after a very
long search. Once found a general can set sail for the island carrying a geologist who will locate the ore. Once
located mines can be built.

To defend the island and the mines a fort can be built. It will have 5 levels, each level increasing the hit points
of the defenders army stationed in the fort by a increasing percentage. The maximum number of troops to occupy the
fort will be the general's capacity (200-250). The production of the mines will be automatically shipped to the owners home island. Only one fort allowed on the island.

Another player who would like to capture the an island and mines can send an army to attack the island and fort.
First the aggressor must locate the island by sending sea going explorer on a long search. This explorer can find one
of three things: An unexplored island, an owned island or nothing. The aggressor then can send his armies to the
owned island in a long voyage. If the island is unexplored he may take it over by building a fort, locating the ore and building mines.

The combat rules are adjusted to favor the defender because his troops can't be identified while in the fort. The attacker must attack blind, but can have several generals and troops in reserve to make several attacks. The defenders know the island well and can see the attackers troops and will know the compostion of the attacking army.

There are of course a lot of details to be developed but the concept is that there is a reward to attacking and defeating the defender, the ore. At the same time no one gets their main island damaged. No one is forced to attack or search for islands to take over.

I would be interested in any thoughts about this concept.

Wimpy

Excellent suggestions Wimpy!

I have rewritten the whole message for clarity

I like Wimpys idea if we are to have PvP. Some incentive besides just fighting seems like a good idea to me. I have quit other games because they ended up being only about bragging rights. If I work for something, I will try to defend it. and getting granite and titanium ore wood be nice. It wouldn't hurt to have some exotic wood trees, either. Of course if the levels stop at 50, I don't know how much granite, etc. we will need.

Just some thoughts from someone who likes building more than fighting.

Definitely need a pvp island. Once you reach the highest level and get all your buildings to 5 what is the point of the game if you can't conquer and spread. We will need something to gain or it will get stale.

I'm not a big fan of having 'multiple islands and managing them all.

Maybe for the purpose of a PVP. We have a disposable island that you travel to fight over and then win the resources and return home.

I was watching Godus gameplay video interview, and the developer Peter was describing a PvP battle that sounded interesting to me. Basically you go to an island and bring in limited resources and then fight to earn whatever you win from that island and return home.


I hate managing more than 1 city/island etc. I've played Travian and Lords of Ultima- and it was just annoying to have so many cities to manage.

Possibly have some sort of "tower" or building that grows in level each time you win a battle. Or a special resource that you win from the battles to take home to upgrade a monument or building with to show off your awesomeness. Maybe this building provides a small population growth.

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Originally Posted by RonEmpire

I'm not a big fan of having 'multiple islands and managing them all.

Maybe for the purpose of a PVP. We have a disposable island that you travel to fight over and then win the resources and return home.
I was watching Godus gameplay video interview, and the developer Peter was describing a PvP battle that sounded interesting to me. Basically you go to an island and bring in limited resources and then fight to earn whatever you win from that island and return home.
I hate managing more than 1 city/island etc. I've played Travian and Lords of Ultima- and it was just annoying to have so many cities to manage.
Possibly have some sort of "tower" or building that grows in level each time you win a battle. Or a special resource that you win from the battles to take home to upgrade a monument or building with to show off your awesomeness. Maybe this building provides a small population growth.

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Hmmm.

I agree, running 2 islands is very hard, i have done it in the past, running as much as 3 servers all at the same time, and it is impossible to evenly work on all three.

Now there are 2 things i would like to see to remedy this issue:

#1 is to rebalance the game to achieve simplicity so that you don't have to work as hard. (I.e. more resources in mines, takes longer to break down, ect...)

Ya right, i didn't think i could fool anyone there.

#2 make the PvP island small. I am thinking as small as 3 sectors. (hey remember a few months ago the Lvl 50's where asking for more land???)

I am working on a new PvP page, to update this old one and provide some artwork to show off how it could work.

The "Tower" suggestion would be to me a Castle. As for a monument, i would like a K/D Statue on your island, one where attackers may think twice if you're a killer.

Also remember, this is TSO, not Travian or Lords of Ultima. While its nice to take their ideas and add them here, we must work outside the box.

T_D

PvP is released on China server fyi

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Originally Posted by TrueHead

PvP is released on China server fyi

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Many players including myself have checked the China PvP. We all agree that it is both lame, and we also know that the Developer Team working with The German Dev Team (if i am correct, the German Dev's control the USA servers) is unlikely at best.

More likely, there would be a new version of PvP, which would be given to us. As i said in post above, i am working on a new idea on how PvP could work.

At the end of the day, even if China's PvP did come to us, it would probably be upgraded later to a more robust version. (and likeable)

There are a lot of things that make developing PvP for TSO very hard. Just take the fact that the game runs 24/7, even when the players aren't here.

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Originally Posted by Wimpy

There are a lot of things that make developing PvP for TSO very hard. Just take the fact that the game runs 24/7, even when the players aren't here.

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Whats wrong with 24/7 PvP?

Look once the Attacker reaches your PvP Island, it would go into lockdown. Your Buildings would still produce (providing the attackers don't raze you first)

After the Attacker leaves, your Island would stay in Lockdown until you come online. (which means you can only be attacked once a night)

Ill add more features and explain what i just said here more, my new PvP topic should be ready by the end of today.

Sorry we know the developers. But they are nice ideas none the less. Just wish we would get input from even the BB staff.

I think having pvp islands is a very cool idea . Maybe you could build stuff like mines and other things to gain resources , and you could get more from gaining new sectors . I'm totally up for it !

I want PvP but I do not want attacks when I am off line. What fun is that?

Has anyone thought of a PVE War Zone where Bandits attack you and you get Rewards if you successfully defend that area?

I'm not a fan of pvp either Wimpy and I believe there are other things those poor coders need to work on first like returning my guild to me.

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Originally Posted by RomanGodCamper

Has anyone thought of a PVE War Zone where Bandits attack you and you get Rewards if you successfully defend that area?

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Nice idea, a survive until reinforcements.

Moonlime, this isn't the place to talk about the loss of your guild. While i respect your loss, and the other bugs this game has, as well as the hard work the Developers do, we have no need for that talk here.

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Originally Posted by The_Director

Nice idea, a survive until reinforcements.

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Well, It would be interesting and having Friends help you as well.. It could work maybe...

i honestly don't want pvp at all. i have quit more games then i like because i don't want to have to be tied to the computer 24/7 because i am gettign attacked. and most of the time pvp is only an excuse to have people bullying each other. and eventually that is what always happens. the best game that i know of that had pvp was naviage. because while it had pvp people just found that attacking players didn't have as good of rewards as attacking the npc pirates. it still gave people the option to attack other players but it kept more of the bullies out of it. the idea of the island is a good one especially if they give us things like granite and exotic wood and i can see those being attackable but how would we keep the high levels from preying on lower levels. the idea of a guild island sounds better because then people are better able to defend the island and only people who really really want to attack have to deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Nevanna

i honestly don't want pvp at all. i have quit more games then i like because i don't want to have to be tied to the computer 24/7 because i am gettign attacked. and most of the time pvp is only an excuse to have people bullying each other. and eventually that is what always happens. the best game that i know of that had pvp was naviage. because while it had pvp people just found that attacking players didn't have as good of rewards as attacking the npc pirates. it still gave people the option to attack other players but it kept more of the bullies out of it.

the idea of the island is a good one especially if they give us things like granite and exotic wood and i can see those being attackable but how would we keep the high levels from preying on lower levels. the idea of a guild island sounds better because then people are better able to defend the island and only people who really really want to attack have to deal with it.

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Thank you for your words, i liked the second half! :p

The answer for high levels Vs. low levels is very simple.

When you have a army(s) ready for a PvP attack, you would open somthing like a scoreboard. You are limited to other players islands where you are most balanced against. The scoreboard could also track levels, and perhaps how good you are at attacking.

Guilds Vs. Guilds works too :D but i would like both.

T_D

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Originally Posted by Nevanna

i honestly don't want pvp at all. i have quit more games then i like because i don't want to have to be tied to the computer 24/7

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I second that Nevanna and do have a life.

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Originally Posted by Moonlime

I second that Nevanna and do have a life.

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Who on earth said you had to be glued to your computer for PvP?