Four Winds Quest

Hello All,

So Honestly, I want to ask personally on who liked the Four Winds Quest and Who Didn't and see where this goes. I liked the Event. It was pretty interesting and getting 500 Gems and Watermill was pretty good. It was very challenging and something different from them other easy quests.

if you liked it. Tell the community on why you liked it.

If you hated it. Tell the community on why you hated it.

Edit: if you were to developed the Four Winds Quests Or to Make Changes to it, What would you do?

(Please No Trolling on this. Just asking Friendly Question)

i had to vote neutral. while i did not do the quest line after the initial find granite subquest due to the costs to complete being at least 10 times the value of the rewards, nevermind the luck factor involved on granite drops from adventures, it was different. this game really does need some new stuff to keep it all interesting.

if i were to design the next event quest line, the 2 main things i would change are 1: the balance between the cost to complete and the value of the rewards and 2: the possbility that a player could do a quest 10 times and not complete a subquest.

a player should profit from quests, or at least the value of the rewards should be equal to the cost to complete the quest. this is an area where BB seems to have struggled repeatedly during the entire time this game has been up and running. and i dont just mean the lower level players. in many areas throughout the game, the upper level players are dealt a raw deal more often than newer players. whether this is by design as a way to pull new people in and encourage upper lvls to drop out, who most likely have already spent all the money they will on the game, i cannot say for sure. it may just be that the developement team is very out of touch with what many of the upper lvl resources are really worth-if this is the case, it needs to be remedied ASAP.

as for the granite drops on adventures required in the subquests, a fix for this has already been suggested by some1 else here in the forums. its simple realy: make it an either/or requirement, where a player either needs to loot the min granite drop from the adventure once, or they need to loot the min exotic log drop from the adventure twice or thrice. of course, if its an adventure that can also drop titanium ore or salt, then those need to be written in as being able to eventually complete the quest. im sure all those who have done bandits nest or SA 10+ times w/out getting granite will agree 100% with me on this point. the infinite bad luck cycle should never ruin a players experience.

all of this is opinion of course, feel free to disagree with it, but dont expect me to even attempt to see it your way unless you give some sort of reasoned argument.

I loved the concept. It was the design that I didn't like.

voted neutral it was a love hate relationship. Some tiers could get the possibility of granite with a loot spot others could not.

Other parts like the new force in upper tiers wass a big time sink to do since only things that buffed the mayor's house would improve the time unless you had the ultra slow village schools.

Loved it. Finally something challenging!

I hated this thing. I can't stand quests that force me to build buildings I don't want and don't have licences for (longbowmaker)

I did it for the guild quests (stables) because we do those every day but this is a one time thing and after the event that longbowmaker and all the longbows and men created with it are just expensive bowmen to me. Total waste of resources.

If that wasn't enough, since I started playing this game in November 2011, I have had no luck when it comes to getting granite in adventures.

After I bought two Bandit Nest with map fragments (minimum 1600 coins value) and failed to get the granite I decided to cut my losses right there. Since I knew that I'd have to try finding an Old Friends Adventure and would also need to get granite from that. In my "unlucky" case I'd have to be a masochist to try that.

By the time I'd have finished that quest I could have bought a minimum of 2 watermills with the coin I'd spent trying to get it done. But wait why would I want a watermill, we're about to get that from the Easter event and also I'd rather have silos. Oh wait that was for the lower level players.

Anyway total bust for me and it's rare I hate something in this game.

I too stopped at the Bandit Nest adventure. Like some of the daily quests the expense of the quest line as a whole compared to the benefits was just not worth it. This choice was strengthened by the impending easter event and my desire to save resources for that. I do like challenges but not ones so dependent on "luck" to succeed, ie sucky granite drop rates. This year especially with the new floating houses and ability to get another general it's a sure thing that trying to trade for eggs is gonna be a sellers market. I am hoping that the quests provided during the event and the drop rate for the explorers is at least decent enough so that it will temper the feeding frenzy some of the opportunistic price gougers will be having. Otherwise it could also backfire and become another disappointing event. Overall I enjoy the game and occasionally do purchase gems to enhance play, but even then as in the case of this quest line and it's rewards I felt I would be "throwing away" money on the deal to do so.

Loved it
i would only change the 'find granite through adventure X' to 'find X granite through resource/experience/follow-up/epic adventures'
and if the idea was to use bandits nest and surprise attack, atleast make them findable like the others :)

9 Loved It.

13 Hated It.

7 Neutral.

That's Pretty Interesting. But yeah, Some of you are right.

Don't think they planned enough on the Event Quests. Also to find Granite should be something else for sure.

I liked it. The 500 gems were nice. The high end buildings were costly, but I guess I would have had to build them sooner or later.

If I could change anything, it would be to add different objectives, such as "Kill Roughnecks X number of times" so we would have a variety of quests we could choose to do. OR, if you really wanted to make it challenging, make it so that we would have to kill bosses x number of times... Wild Mary, Witch, High Dark Priest, etc

I enjoyed it. It was something new and quite the challenge. I completed the 36-45 interval and for the lower levels in each interval the quest can be really hard.
Many people have had good points on alternatives for the "find x granite" part. I had to do 2 BN and 2 OF. More than that would been hard just on the resource needed to acquire those quest.

But in the end I really enjoyed it and want to see something similar again. It got the guild together helping each other finish it. I was also one of those few who enjoyed the End of the World event. These things make it all interesting and fun. Worth maybe mentioning that I dont buy gems so I did not have it easier to complete four winds or the EotW.

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Originally Posted by Toughguylol

I liked it. The 500 gems were nice. The high end buildings were costly, but I guess I would have had to build them sooner or later.

If I could change anything, it would be to add different objectives, such as "Kill Roughnecks X number of times" so we would have a variety of quests we could choose to do. OR, if you really wanted to make it challenging, make it so that we would have to kill bosses x number of times... Wild Mary, Witch, High Dark Priest, etc

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toughguy what i colored red above is what you are wrong about. 1 quest tier required the building of a longbow maker, my quest tier required the building of, if i remember correctly, a damascene swordsmith and a titanium smelter. i have never needed any of these buildings. longbows, damascene swords, crossbows, etc etc are all abundantly available from adventures

this is an issue i had with this quest line that i forgot to include in my last post here. i mean come on, it takes 3.5k granite for a titanium smelter, and 4k granite for a damascene swordsmith. thtats 7.5k granite gone just for 2 of the subquests. at 1.2gc per (which is the low end in trade these days) that is 9k gc woth of granite. and lets not forget that the price of the titanium ore and coal the smelter uses is more than the titanium bars it gives you, even buffed. same problem with the swordsmith and the longbowmaker.

I liked it in theory. I hope we do it again, but with some of the suggested changes - leaving things so up to chance made it frustrating at times. A challenge is fine, but make it something we can control!

It was nice to have something different to do. That's mainly what I liked about this, and is what I liked about the end of the world quest. I say keep giving us new types of challenges and events, but maybe consult with players when it comes to balancing and assigning appropriate tasks and whatnot.

I finished the quest line, but the problem I had was doing Surpirse Attack like 7 times. While the XP was nice, the cost was way more then I wanted to spend. That didnt include the loot spots I shared with another player. They had over 11 quests done before getting the granite. I would change that part of the quest, make it so we just have to complete the adventure once, not many times. Over all the quest line wasnt that hard for me, I am level 47 and had the resources to complete each quest and the adventures available. Anyone lower level with the same quests would be hard pressed to complete them without help.

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Originally Posted by LostSoul913

toughguy what i colored red above is what you are wrong about. 1 quest tier required the building of a longbow maker, my quest tier required the building of, if i remember correctly, a damascene swordsmith and a titanium smelter. i have never needed any of these buildings. longbows, damascene swords, crossbows, etc etc are all abundantly available from adventures.

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When I said I would have had to build them sooner or later, I was referencing to the "Battle Master" questline, where it requires you to build those buildings. Also, you never know if any future crisis quests require those high-end buildings. It was a good idea to just build them and be done with them. Plus, building longbow maker? Not like you actually lose any money. Most people should have more HWL than they need for their sawmills, anyways

I loved it. We need more of this. I hope they continue to build quest lines like these. One more thing to keep me playing even though I no longer gain levels.

I'm not going to finish it, because I could never find Bandit's Nest, and I wasn't going to fork over 1k gc to have to redo it over and over (like one guildie had to do). I'm certainly a fan of "gain x amount of granite through adventures" which prevents just between-trading in guilds.

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Originally Posted by Wimpy

I loved the concept. It was the design that I didn't like.

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I would agree with this statement right here.. I liked it, there were just some quests I would change... like the one Evil_J suggested.

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Originally Posted by Dragonmane

I finished the quest line, but the problem I had was doing Surpirse Attack like 7 times. While the XP was nice, the cost was way more then I wanted to spend. That didnt include the loot spots I shared with another player. They had over 11 quests done before getting the granite. I would change that part of the quest, make it so we just have to complete the adventure once, not many times. Over all the quest line wasnt that hard for me, I am level 47 and had the resources to complete each quest and the adventures available. Anyone lower level with the same quests would be hard pressed to complete them without help.

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Yeah. I hear yeah. Most people would have problems if they were a low level and having to do it multipule times like some people had to do. Lucky for levels 26 - 35 . They only had to do like Island of the Pirates and Dark Priest which isn't as bad as having to do Bandit Nest or Surprise Attack.

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Originally Posted by Schade

I loved it. We need more of this. I hope they continue to build quest lines like these. One more thing to keep me playing even though I no longer gain levels.

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I agree with your statement Schade. We do need more. They also should have like.. once we complete one. we get another one and have to complete that and it gets harder and harder each time you complete it.

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Originally Posted by CheeseKing

I'm not going to finish it, because I could never find Bandit's Nest, and I wasn't going to fork over 1k gc to have to redo it over and over (like one guildie had to do). I'm certainly a fan of "gain x amount of granite through adventures" which prevents just
between-trading in guilds.

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You need to buy the Adventure Bandits nest in the Merchant.

My only issue with the whole quest series was the luck factor in getting the granite. I did luck up the first round and got the granite the first time, however, I have completed Old Friends 4 times and still haven't gotten the granite. I'm sure the quest is ending soon and all my "work" will be for nothing since without completing the quest, I will not get the reward.

I liked the quest line.. it was challenging and that is good. The only parts I did not like were the "Get "X" resource from "Y" adventure"... too much dumb luck involved. I did Motherly love twice and it took three runs on Surprise Attack to get granite. I know that what I did was nothing compared to others that did it many more times and just had bad luck. That part should be changed, the rest was great, I had already built all the expert buildings anyway, so I had no issue with that.

Liked the idea, was hard to do given the time frame allowed unless you were lucky like Jett said " the only parts I did not like were the "Get "X" resource from "Y" adventure"... too much dumb luck involved. I did Motherly love twice and it took three runs on Surprise Attack to get granite"

"time restraints along with value of winning vs cost gives this quest line a thumbs down.

----Developers keep working on doing these type of quest lines they are fun and could be well worth it if thought out more carefully : )

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Originally Posted by MandiS

My only issue with the whole quest series was the luck factor in getting the granite. I did luck up the first round and got the granite the first time, however, I have completed Old Friends 4 times and still haven't gotten the granite. I'm sure the quest is ending soon and all my "work" will be for nothing since without completing the quest, I will not get the reward.

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Same here.
Finished 9/10 subquests, and most of the last one too, just can't find enough stones for the life of me, been searching pretty much 24/7 for a few days now with 3 explorers!
So after finishing like 95% of the quest, I will not get anything of the final reward, that really sucks big time.
I don't suppose the quest could go on for a little longer?

There's a reason these quests are optional. The 500 gems is priceless if you're a f2p gamer. The 500 gems is worth 1.5k coin if you buy gems.

The decision is up to you if it's worth it or not. Developers dont have to make every feature profitable to everybody, wouldn't that make the game too easy and kinda pointless?

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Originally Posted by FluffyRabbit

Same here.
Finished 9/10 subquests, and most of the last one too, just can't find enough stones for the life of me, been searching pretty much 24/7 for a few days now with 3 explorers!
So after finishing like 95% of the quest, I will not get anything of the final reward, that really sucks big time.
I don't suppose the quest could go on for a little longer?

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Ouch, that's gotta hurt

I voted Neutral. Though I enjoyed it personally, I think there were issues for many players. Not everyone spends hours a day playing like I do. Also, some of the quests were simply there to waste time in my opinion. Plus, the possibility of running a quest an infinite number of times and NOT getting what you need is hard to take. I think there should be a limit such as receive x amount of granite or complete 3 times. Obviously that can be tweaked and I am sure many others have great ideas on how to improve this as well.

I hated it, I did not get to complet the quest becuse I did the Pirates island andenture at least 4 times and never won the granite to move forward.

dang. I've seen people get granite all the time on Pirates Island.

I like the idea of the quest chain, but the actual tasks were poorly thought out. Being lucking in what loot you get should be a minor factor at the most, not a deal breaker, and making us do wasteful tasks like building a longbow maker and then making a bunch of longbowmen just makes no sense.

I didn't vote, none of the choices seemed to fit. I loved the idea, hated the actual, and quit half way through.

Overall, I hated it because the factor of luck involved is so capricious. But it did have its good points. I liked that it stretched us to spend more time and resources on things that we wouldn't ordinarily do. In that respect, it was something new and different; aside from quests I had never built anything more advanced than an exotic wood plank. But that luck factor is the elephant in the room, it's the reason I abandoned the quest after completing the first nine sub-quests. I am not going to waste my time running SA over and over, hoping for granite. If I want to play a game involving luck, I will try bingo.

Well, Thank you all for the Great Responses to the Four Winds Quest!

It looked Pretty Balanced But overall... Mostly everyone hated it!

Which is okay I suppose, Not like I made the Event.

I would of made it totaly better... Or atleast I would Try....

I voted hate because for me the quest is not do-able. If you are going to have a quest chain then it needs to flow. I did it to a point and realized that I was not getting any granite to fulfill the requirements of the quest. I did not have enough map fragments to buy Pirates Nest so I quit the event. If you are going to have an event, make certain that the adventures pay you the resources needed to fulfill the request (Granite) and then maybe award enough map fragments to continue.

I finished it in 4 days because I was lucky. I didn't like it because I had to build a building I didn't want and produce troops I don't use.

I hated it because I did 8 bandit nest adv's and didn't get any granite. It took 2 days to replenish the troops each time. No interest in doing another one!