Dev's Diary: Science System 5/9/2013

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Originally Posted by Lilyoptra

I love new content as much as the next person, BUT... I'm still waiting for my broken quests from the November update to get fixed. When I report it, I just get told the Dev's are aware of it. Could we get those fixed before we run off to put in new quests that may also break????

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i am with you 100% i am a lvl 50 player who STILL has low lvl quest/adventures (i.e. the first adventure (which i have already used up all three of them and STILL broken) that can not be unlocked because i have already surpassed the lvl requirements i would like to see all the old quest chains to be unlocked first before they release all this new content please and thank you :)

Please tell me we'll be getting a modestly bigger island to use and/or the ability to remove trees/impediments to make room.

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Originally Posted by Thevano

Awesome!! New buildings, no limit to how many... Can we get a bigger island please? I have no idea where I'm going to build them.

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Yeah... I have absolutely no room on my island.... the only open spots are a couple that I leave open to put my "extra" gens in so I can load them before sending them out to an adv.... I have a couple BL available, unless I have all my mines going, and then I run out of licenses.... Gonna be hard to get too awfully excited over this if I have to go through and cut out a bunch of buildings in order to do it....

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Originally Posted by drisanamoonstone

i love the idea of the system and the new buildings my only question is will we be getting more building licenses because if we don't my now balanced island will become unbalanced.

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Yes, isn't that the purpose of a game? To provide challenge and variety?? I for one look forward to reconsidering my island, and giving some of my Lvl 4&5 buildings the ax!

Though I'm really surprised I'm the only one bringing this up... NOT TRADABLE???? Maybe I'm alone here, but I wish the concept of "not tradable" would be removed from the dev mindset and we could have truly free economies. Information is one of the easiest things to trade (and be stolen) so why put this artificial limitation in place???

Either way... looking forward!! Thanks BB!

~SG

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Originally Posted by Starfire512

http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archi.../g_skill_9.png

Name: Quality Coal Shafts
Effect: Grants a certain chance to find Coal deposits that can be mined faster.

if you were to then fill those deposits with coal refills, could you have a permanent super fast level 5 coal mine?

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I would think the combinations with Gold Mines & parrots might be more interesting... OR...

Quality Copper Shafts
Effect: Grants a certain chance to find Copper deposits that can be mined faster.

What about the ENDLESS COPPER MINE being dropped on one of these?

Will we ever get the ability to see who has or hasn't completed the guild quest?

Where will I find the space? Where will I get more Building licenses for all these new buildings? Did it ever occur to anyone that people in the Guilds might just have to specialize and work together to get everything they need? (What a concept)

Think it will make things far more interesting in the future if implemented properly.

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Originally Posted by Graywolf

Where will I find the space? Where will I get more Building licenses for all these new buildings? Did it ever occur to anyone that people in the Guilds might just have to specialize and work together to get everything they need? (What a concept)

Think it will make things far more interesting in the future if implemented properly.

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"It will not be possible to trade the 3 following resources: Manuscript, Tome, Codex."

This makes it a little more difficult for guild members to work together.

How will you be able to distinguish one geologist from another according to their specialized skill set?
Will there be some way to differentiate between other specialists once they are trained?

Lets go back 6 months to a dev diary... back when PVP was metioned and then forgot about.... how about some of that content being relesed... now that 6 months have passed, surely you have SOMETHING to share with us

Any addition/feature is welcome. :) thanks guys/gals.

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Originally Posted by WTF692011

Good luck hoping this #4 is the pot of gold, AGAIN. I really hope your not disappointed. lol;)

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Espionage?

I need more island to build these new buildings on....

That's all well and good, only problem I see, if the costs and time remain as pictured above(Bookbinder is level 5 already) for creating Manuscripts, Tomes, and Codex. It will take 15 days to make 1 Tome(10 Manuscripts @ 1½ day per), and 150 days to make 1 Codex(100 Manuscripts turns into 10 Tomes, which turns into 1 Codex).....

And before for ya'll start jumpin' in with "Oh blah blah blah trade this, blah blah trade that" Read above again...Manuscripts, Tomes, and Codex are Non-Tradable....you have to MAKE every single one....I don't even want to know how long it'll take to produce a single Manuscript/Tome/Codex with a Level 1 Bookbinder

"It is possible to improve each Geologist with up to 31 skill points (in total). You should plan the way you want to develop your specialist, because you have to choose between different skills. But each specialist can be skilled individually."
Umm...I have 13 Geologists...with the way I see this new Science System, it will take at least a year to manually cap out a single Geologist...(or you can cheat and buy gems *did ya see the lil gem icon next to scripts/tomes/codexs in the picture above?*
Not to mention Geologists will not be the only thing we will be spending these new items on...Explorers, Military, and Economy...

Before ya'll get all outta control like I know you can - just remember if you want all 13 of your geologist's to have 31 skill points each...i'll see ya in 13 years...unless of course you spend $1000-$2000 on gems and buy the items(you know who you are), then i'll see ya in-game in june!

p.s. don't drink alcohol...

very cool! I love new stuff :)
this'll be more fun

Please fix the broken quests (More damage, free the home zone) before you add any new content.

Thank you.

is this the genesis that makes the guides??? thanks to ur guides I broke level 50 last month lol

i like what you bb are doin ,,,expanding the economy while expanding our minds,,,just kidding!!!

gonna be kinda hard to build new building lines when when im already out of room and building licenses more space would be nice cuz theres no way im tearing out lvl 5 buildings

What kind of raw materials will the paperworks and the other book component makers use?

I'd be willing to bet that they use the pinewood logs for the lower end paper and exotic wood logs for the best paper - the other stuff will probably require bronze, iron, and titanium to make the lettering systems...

This is cool hopefully they will add some more levels for this too even a few (52) or legacy/elite/etc sub levels after 50, would like to see more effort with Guilds right after this so there can be some PvP cuz this game is in dire need of some more complex fighting ....

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Originally Posted by rUmyFriend

That's all well and good, only problem I see, if the costs and time remain as pictured above(Bookbinder is level 5 already) for creating Manuscripts, Tomes, and Codex. It will take 15 days to make 1 Tome(10 Manuscripts @ 1½ day per), and 150 days to make 1 Codex(100 Manuscripts turns into 10 Tomes, which turns into 1 Codex).....

And before for ya'll start jumpin' in with "Oh blah blah blah trade this, blah blah trade that" Read above again...Manuscripts, Tomes, and Codex are Non-Tradable....you have to MAKE every single one....I don't even want to know how long it'll take to produce a single Manuscript/Tome/Codex with a Level 1 Bookbinder

"It is possible to improve each Geologist with up to 31 skill points (in total). You should plan the way you want to develop your specialist, because you have to choose between different skills. But each specialist can be skilled individually."
Umm...I have 13 Geologists...with the way I see this new Science System, it will take at least a year to manually cap out a single Geologist...(or you can cheat and buy gems *did ya see the lil gem icon next to scripts/tomes/codexs in the picture above?*
Not to mention Geologists will not be the only thing we will be spending these new items on...Explorers, Military, and Economy...

Before ya'll get all outta control like I know you can - just remember if you want all 13 of your geologist's to have 31 skill points each...i'll see ya in 13 years...unless of course you spend $1000-$2000 on gems and buy the items(you know who you are), then i'll see ya in-game in june!

p.s. don't drink alcohol...

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It's showing that it can be built up another level too. So either it's a mock up, or we are going to be able to build beyond level 5.

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Originally Posted by Grognard

Espionage?

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the espionage building has been put on the back burner with PVP, search back at least 6 months for the latest PVP update......
LOVEING THE Attation TSO has given their old Dev Diarys...... NOT!

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Originally Posted by DukeOfPotato

I very much hope additional building licenses will be given out... Otherwise, this very interesting enhancement of the game will just annoy a lot of us. Or no license required perhaps? The building license system is pretty frustrating.

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These are regular buildings in the building menu and use building licences.
They are not available for gems in the store.

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Originally Posted by LadySilverDagger

I'd be willing to bet that they use the pinewood logs for the lower end paper and exotic wood logs for the best paper - the other stuff will probably require bronze, iron, and titanium to make the lettering systems...

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That is correct. ^^ except, it uses the ore of copper, iron and titanium
Science is live on the test server now.

Interesting.

I really like this idea and since I have five geo's currently I know I will be specializing in more than one area. It will also be an incentive to get more geo's to use in the game. Now if you would just give us a way to get granite we would be much happier campers!

I hope they DO NOT give out more BL or make more available ...
Adjust your island....quit your whining and crying
Its part of the game and for some of us we accept the challenge and move forward.

I hope they make the school more useful with this science system

i wish they would fix the broken quests first i.e. adventures and free homezone

These are some superb expansions to the game, I love it!!! I would state though that adding Granite and Exotic Wood buildings. And impleminting the ability to clear land so that players could build in desired locations would greatly benefit gameplay

Finally...something new that will last longer than 1 day of excitement!

Really excited

You should also include 10 building licenses with this patch. =)

took me 5 min to make this table about the production of the new buildings (doesnt count transport time)

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8258/booksf.png

anyone else spot the problem? :)

19200 E Logs in 24 hours sounds a little excessive to me.

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Originally Posted by rUmyFriend

That's all well and good, only problem I see, if the costs and time remain as pictured above(Bookbinder is level 5 already) for creating Manuscripts, Tomes, and Codex. It will take 15 days to make 1 Tome(10 Manuscripts @ 1½ day per), and 150 days to make 1 Codex(100 Manuscripts turns into 10 Tomes, which turns into 1 Codex).....

And before for ya'll start jumpin' in with "Oh blah blah blah trade this, blah blah trade that" Read above again...Manuscripts, Tomes, and Codex are Non-Tradable....you have to MAKE every single one....I don't even want to know how long it'll take to produce a single Manuscript/Tome/Codex with a Level 1 Bookbinder

"It is possible to improve each Geologist with up to 31 skill points (in total). You should plan the way you want to develop your specialist, because you have to choose between different skills. But each specialist can be skilled individually."
Umm...I have 13 Geologists...with the way I see this new Science System, it will take at least a year to manually cap out a single Geologist...(or you can cheat and buy gems *did ya see the lil gem icon next to scripts/tomes/codexs in the picture above?*
Not to mention Geologists will not be the only thing we will be spending these new items on...Explorers, Military, and Economy...

Before ya'll get all outta control like I know you can - just remember if you want all 13 of your geologist's to have 31 skill points each...i'll see ya in 13 years...unless of course you spend $1000-$2000 on gems and buy the items(you know who you are), then i'll see ya in-game in june!

p.s. don't drink alcohol...

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love the comment above :)
yeah, whats up with "It will not be possible to trade the 3 following resources: Manuscript, Tome, Codex."? At least please give us book that will allow our explorer find granite, then it may be worth my time.

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Originally Posted by Wimpy

19200 E Logs in 24 hours sounds a little excessive to me.

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not only the exotic logs, but this production chains are completely off reasonable values, BB should look into this and change the production time for longer cycles, and reduce the raw materials input

I wouldn't bet that those cycle times for intermediate and advanced paper are the correct ones for the live servers.
They're likely shortened for the short testing time available before this goes live in June.
Expect the time it takes to make enough books for all your specialists to take years.