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I would like to know why it is that when I type the word "g a y" or "l e s b i a n" it is censored in chat. This associates these words with negative connotations and I think that this is hugely problematic. Why are these words treated as taboo when the individuals to whom they apply use them to describe themselves? In my opinion, this is unacceptably discriminatory.
Kate709, can you please just send a ticket?
The issue you are asking about would only cause unnecessary arguments here in the forum.
There is no discrimination intended here.
These words are censored because there are too many morons out there that would use them in a derogatory fashion.
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Originally Posted by Kate709
Good point, i add that to what i said.Quote:
Originally Posted by EpsilonSilver
And, yet, the words "moron" or "idiot" are not censored, despite the fact that they are ONLY useful in a derogatory sense. I fail to see the logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by EpsilonSilver
I view any arguments that this post might cause as completely necessary. Though, I'm more than happy to send a ticket in addition to this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Director
Well thats good (ticket part i mean)
As for moron and idiot, i think the real issue here is that the USA servers (Zeus and Ares) language is different from german which is where the game is being developed. (ps bad move Dev's, please make a US game IN the USA)
Because the Dev's don't split the language barrier very far, words that are considered bad in german are carried to here in the US. Now a few extra words from the US are removed, but generally they haven't done much to look for the differences between the german language and the English language.
I'm not really going to continue talking here, my personal views on the subject is to keep those two words banned, even if on a political mindset they are fine, i just don't think a 10 year old should be given the opportunity to use them. (or a 0-120 Y/O for that matter)
My point is, unless the words are being used in a good environment, ok, but in a game with players with different word managing skills (the difference between players who cuss/nice guys/kids) these words should be left alone.
(BB's ill remove this message if requested)
The rationale for these being censored has been that players have used these terms often ignorantly in derogatory and insulting ways. As the culture and player base evolves, however, we are open to considering a revision of the policy, and we'll investigate further. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
I appreciate your consideration of the topic, BB_Effiluna! It would seem to me that anyone intent on using any banned word in this game can easily get around doing so, so I wonder about the decision to censor. I can further respect the desire to not have younger children seeing negative content in the chat, but I'm not sure that censoring effectively addresses this issue due to the numerous ways that insulting people have found to be make sure that their words are seen in the chat. That said, the decision rule I'm suggesting would be to censor words that can only be used "ignorantly in derogatory and insulting ways" rather than words that are derogatory and insulting only when the intent behind their use is to be insulting or derogatory. Beyond that, it should be in the interest of players to ignore those who are being insulting and, perhaps, for BBs to have a greater capacity to sanction those whose intent is to be harmful in the chat.
I am still trying to figure out what is wrong with the letter "K" or "KK"
In Ares, you can say "KK" instead of "K". I am told it means something bad in German, but I do not know what it is since I do not speak the language.
same here in Zeus.
What would really be useful is if we could see our own mistakes, I.e. if i said "K" and the chat blocked it, i would see the issue as well. Then i can correct myself and improve what i say in the future.
Or a link to show us what not to say (a list of censored words) would be nice.
You make good sense as usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Director
Thanks wimpy!
sub-note, the error should have ** around it, so that you know it was blocked. (I.e. instead of: "*** ill come back to it later", i would see: "*k* ill come back to it later".
I wants whisper color changed from pink as it is hard to read pink on brown. u can keep censoring cause it makes it easy to cuss I just have to press * repeatedly.
kate makes a good point, its new millennium - gay, straight, it doesn't matter anymore. and lovely fags mean cigarettes. there are worse words than that
like microbe
They are censored for a reason. It's totally inappropriate to call someone gay or lesbian and we should leave it at that. Many of people would get offended if you called him/she that. I don't think it anyone's business to know if they are or not. It pretty much just through flame wars up in Global and on Forums. I'm sure even you wouldn't wanted to be called Gay or Lesbian or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kate709
Those words also have more then One Meaning as well. I think we should just leave it at that and there is nothing wrong with the Censoring Problems. besides the Censoring on the letter "K" but that is because of its meaning in Germany I suppose. Another thing is that it will keep you out of trouble for the most part. I've seen people try by passing the Censoring for those 2 words and making insults to other people that they were eventually permanently banned and could never come back again.
I'm sure no one here would wanna get Permanently banned either for spending so much time on here and spending money, but eh, "****" happens and if you get banned, it's you're own problem.
K and KK are censored...what about triple-K?
No just "k"
"kk" is not censored.
Question asked and answered.
Can we just close this thread?