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Hello Everyone,
The latest news The Dev's brought us was stunning,
to put it in Wimpy's words "I am going to print this and frame it and hang it on my wall."
Lets discuss the news here in a bit more formal way, starting with a question, How do you think these changes will impact your guild.
T_D
most likely get those booted that just wait for the rewards from guild quest without doing them
Agreed. Leechers are going to get kicked. I'm not in any guild but wasn't that the whole point, didn't guild leaders want this? Several posts (I'm not gonna look for them) asking devs to allow leaders to know who was on, who was active, who did their guild quest, and who didn't?Quote:
Originally Posted by G_F_M
I am that person you are referring to about leaders requesting guild changes.Quote:
Originally Posted by n1i3k6o9n
People have also requested liking to know who does their GQ and is active in the guild.... Ive seen it in chat sometime.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Director
yep i see it all the time.
Aside from knowing who is actually doing the guild quest (not much is worse than waiting on 2-3 ppl to finish for days), the activity indicator will be great. I hope its something more than simply "active/inactive." More along the lines of "last log on date." Not a guild leader myself, but after the update i'll prob be 2nd or 3rd in line for succession. It will be nice to know how many and who i have to off to ascend to the throne. Muhahaha
I do not think that in our guild anyone will be kicked because they failed to do the GQ. It may be that they will leave the guild under pressure from members who want the guild to be the best it can be. It will also identify those who need help but don't want to ask for it.
Knowing the inactive members may make it possible to get rid of those who have stopped playing so that new mature, active players can be invited. Should make the GQ easier to complete.
I'd hope no one gets booted from any guild instantly for not doing GQ. I'd imagine only if it was a continual thing. Although I would like to see certain info only available to officers. Definitely GQ completion, and possibly activity. I could see problems arising from maybe a player struggling a bit and then having guild gang up on him/her. Too much info on individual player activities could lead to ostracizing. Sounds a bit pessimistic but I prefer to hope for the best but plan for worst.
Questions??? hmmmm... well i asked BB_llConnorsll but he was unsure- if a guild leader were to step down, would the person who was going to take his place have to have a guild house on his island?
Thats a very good question!Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueHead
If they didn't have to have a guild house, then every guild would switch leaders for a day so that everyone could remove their guild house and free up a building slot and tons of land.
I am excited to have the updates of activity and GQ- now we can whisper the lurkers and help them finish their gqs whether they like it or not
I would like to see a option where the leader could change how many days equals active.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcain
Somthing like you could see if he was online in the last day, last 3 days and last 30 days.
What determines length of inactive should be declared by the guild leader, much like what director said. But really, I think the real question here is what happens if the guild leader leaves every member as the successor, or they all have equal succession, who will take over then if the leader is inactive?
the way i read/understand it, the guild leader can put ppl in line to secede ie: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and so on making it like how it is in a royal monarchy. So not everyone in guild can be put next to be leader all at once.Quote:
Originally Posted by n1i3k6o9n
What I saw from the dev post, test player Ubi3 and Ubi8 had possessed rank 3 simultaneously. Which means multiple members can possess the same rank. Now I'm assuming that every member begins at the lowest rank, let's say rank 3, and the guild leader can go in and change their pecking order much like how the leader can change officers. Now let's say the leader doesn't change it and everyone is left at the same rank, in this case rank 3, and since it is possible for multiple members to have the same rank. Once the leader becomes MIA, who is first in this order? This is what I'm trying to allude at. Of course, I could be wrong and saw it differently.
that is a tad confusing how they've got it n1i3k6o9n, i'm sure/hope its just a sample of working test and will figure up way to have clear successor order. And sometimes guild log goes crazy. Most times when I promote someone, i have to do it twice and then log shows I promoted "so and so" to next level and then demoted same "so and so" to the same level. makes no sense, but just how it does it.
Good question
All these questions to the proposed Guild Changes and no answers...
Something this fundamental to the game and it hasn't even been tested for functionality and/or feedback?
Kinda makes you wonder what the test server is for? :(
Looks like another epic UBI fail in the making...
(Hoping I'm wrong about that but their track record doesn't tend to give me a warm happy feeling about it)
1. Please do not start another rage thread on my thread. The last thing i or the BB's or anyone else for that matter needs is another 60 page long of our complaints.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graywolf
2. The latest news for guilds is still in development. it isn't even ready for the testing server. However our job is to point out these faults, so that the Dev's can fix them. in a orderly and calm way i might add.
3. Who is a failure? Blue Byte? not yet. They have until the end of the year to make good on their PvP. if they fail that, nothing, and i mean nothing will revive the dead bones of TSO.
No matter what the bugs are- these are much needed changes. GLs and officers need more tools and data to effectively manage guilds- especially the larger ones. Looking forward to it.
and it will also make GL and officers feel more in control of whats going on in the guild.
Guilds? What the hell are they good for?
for you to create then disband. just a guess.
well if the guild leader spent a good amount of resources founding the guild why can his place be taken from him . I dont think its fair .
not taken from him, its for if he wants to step down either to leave game or to not have the responsibility anymore. Or in most cases incase goes inactive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isildur8478
I feel as if they would make the replacement leader have a guild house... That is what ShuttlePilot had to do when UBI changed leadership in TC from Demacia to her waaaaaaaaayyyyyy back in the day.
You remember back that far Jethro? :))Quote:
Originally Posted by Jethro702
lol how long ago was that?
I just got done taking another look at Anno Online (Open Beta)
So far they are doing really good. all thats left to make me want to move is to finish the guilds system.
Yeah but that was pretty much a one off thing. They wouldn't let anyone else do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jethro702
the only problem is that Anno is almost the exact same game as this not much of a difference in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Director
Yeah Which really sucked and it must have been maybe a year ago when they did itQuote:
Originally Posted by frood42
GFM can you PLEASE start researching what you say? i don't know if you check often, but you are wrong about Anno Online.Quote:
Originally Posted by G_F_M
(yes its similar, but with a fresh start and no PvP) (also sorry if what i said comes with a punch, i can only get so soft with what i say before i fall apart :p )
Well this update will finally fix that. i just wish it came sooner. Guilds are the Future of TSO, a better foundation from its start would of been better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jethro702
I played anno - it stunk. it's like a more annoying version of TSO without even the hope of PVPQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Director
Then you forget that its in BETA!Quote:
Originally Posted by Oabol
Seriously, i really don't get why everyone thinks its bad, its not even ready for crying out loud.
well they are selling rubies already so the beta excuse is out the window and in the other anno games you got to fight pirates and in game enemies
Agreed. Anno Online may sink. But i would like to think Blue Byte is smarter than that, not to make the same mistake twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by G_F_M
I hope not.. I like Anno, still getting the hang of it.. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Director