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Hello everyone, I have a Vote for yall
It looks like the BB's are indecisive! Vote on how long are inactive leaders are given before they are forced to step down.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB_SlasH
This Vote will be active for 14 days, after that, i will PM Slash with our answer.
(aisa get your testing group over here and vote!)
7 days is not a very long time, problems come up in RL that may take someone away for a while. 21-30 days if the guild leader hasn't contacted anyone by then sure replace him. and again that is only an opinion
i'm not worried about the "stepping down" part, it's how they choose the next, best leader i don't like. Right now looks like it's based strictly on how many adventure invites you send....lots of great guild leaders give out buffs, sponsor contests, among other things. Basing the "score" on who gives out the most adventure invitations is not representative of the skills needed for a good leader.
voted for 7 days
despite i consider inactive someone that doesnt login for 2 days, 5 extra days is the tolerance :)
i voted 31 days- not that i think 31 days of being offline is right for a GL to do, but RL issues do come up, people get sick or go on vacation, get into trouble but you know things do happen. If one of these or another situation were to come up where the guild leader was going to be MIA for a while, im sure he would let his guild know about it first but i think to be fair 31 days is the right amount of time for a new GL to be called upon.
14 Days.
14 Days is long enough to inform guild members if they will be inactive due to moving or family problems.
same goes for members too. Unless it shows the last log in date, inactivity should be 14-21 days. A month is too long to wait on dead accounts to get new members into a full guild.
Yes. But they do need to have a good reason. If its just a excuses.. then.... BOOOT!... wait.. you can't boot guild leader... But i remember my Guild leader was semi-here on the Guild. He was in the proccess of Moving.. Took him about a month considering he was going across the state I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcain
Guild Leader would need guild house?
You figure being a GL you would have open communication to your officers and maybe one or two members in the guild about your activities. Given that if they don't inform you that they are going to gone for a extended period of time, two weeks should be ample time to believe they might not be coming back to the game.
We also want the option to voluntarily change leaders.
That is given. Leaders can step down, and the other way is the inactive.Quote:
Originally Posted by EpsilonSilver
Please keep the subject strictly about how long the inactivity should be. Thanks! :o
I would rather select my successor if that is the case, tyvm!Quote:
Originally Posted by Elegante
I could assign a number from 1 to 5. The number 1 would be able to accept or decline. If declined, the option goes to number 2, until it reaches 5. If at that point, all 5 have declined, then a default based on a vote by the guild members.
i think around a solid month of inactivity issues a Vote from all members for a new leader.
i don't know, 14 days is leading the votes!
14 days
As per testing....I believe it is now 30 days...the GL can choose up to 3 players (not necessarily officers) to succeed them.
The successor needs to have a guild house to accept.
Useful tool to assist the leader if they need a break
I agree, the next person in line should be one of the Officers the Guild Leader had, not a random person out of the guild. Officers in most guilds were picked by the Leader because they trusted them !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Elegante
Never is not a choice? :-0 ;-0
No, it isn't. Not that kind of vote.
31days
Yep, ends tomorrow night.
Guess a leader cant have a week vacation or a 2 week vacation ... may cause them to lose leadership....
31 days is the winner!
I will PM BB_Slash and a few other BB's as well just to make sure the news gets to them.
dynamite, good news lol you get up to 4 weeks according to the poll.
Since you might not have seen my comment elsewhere....
I find this topic amusing....if the leader is gone for X amount of time, nothing is preventing the remaining active members from departing and forming a new guild in 24 hours....besides, I know I would be highly pissed if I spent REAL money to buy a guild house and was suddenly hospitalized for 30 days due to a heart attack and return only to find my guild house had been taken from me. I forsee a lot of abuse on this, not to mention potential litigation.....many countries prevent TOS from this very practice whether its in them or not (including the EU)....
This issue was discussed before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Windwalker2012
The point is this, if you were inactive, then the next in line can keep the guild running without everyone having to leave and pay 400+ coins to restart a new guild. As for the "oh i lost my guild and all that money building and maintaining the guild!" don't worry. if you were a good leader, then you can request to the new leader to return you to your former rank.
If you do not have a good connection with your guild mates, then maybe *gasp* just maybe you are not the right leader to lead.
I know there are other objections to the update, but unless there is a change, welcome the change, accept and move on.
And really, this is small. while it affects leaders thats all it affects. The average member will never see the leadership role, or how it could influence someone or something else.
Even today as a former guild leader (yes surprise i know what i am talking about) these changes are not earth shattering. Just a bead rock for the next guild update.
You missed the point but I can understand that given your comments.....me, I'll wait for the first lawsuits to be filed when this goes bad - and it will, if implemented
A similar system is in place for World of Warcraft guilds and there have been no lawsuits as far as I know. If you're waiting for lawsuits to be filed then you might be waiting for a very very long time.
I would like to remind you, that TSO is not responsible for what happens in-game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Windwalker2012
FYI, there are not many lawsuits, since game makers have their work protected. (in paperwork lol)
Actually I've discovered that the individual taking over must have their own guild house and the inactive leader who is deposed retains their guild house so therefore it doesn't impact the inactive's account - and thus does not run afoul of the laws I was referencing....