So its rather RNG based then ?
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So its rather RNG based then ?
No, not random. From what i have seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by RonEmpire
Using the weak point potion and killing the boss in a leader camp 1st, without killing any other enemy in that camp.
On BLT, If you kill the innkeeper in the tavern you get 984 beans for xp. Killing the innkeeper in the Mag.Res. you get 1026 beans.
On CLT, killing the GiantBear in L6 you get 649 beans. Killing the RivalDressmaker in the last leader was 888 beans(something around there, i forget the exact amount)
So far the innkeeper in the MagRes is the most. I am gonna be running HLTs and using potion on the dark castle to see how many beans for killing the DarkMagician gives, but there is only a 25% chance of killing him.
The Weak Potion is random target right? You don't get to choose what it targets. thus "RNG"
Ah, yes random target. Everyone would choose the boss for extra beans if you could pick...
Most camps have 3 enemy type, 33% chance of killing boss with potion.
is there cool down on the weak potion. I forgot. can't remember if I tested that on test server.
wondering if 3 people used weak potion. nobody would have to lose troops to the boss.
Unfortunately, a 2 day cool down for weak point potion.Quote:
Originally Posted by RonEmpire
1 day for ranged support
3 day for small catapult
4 day for big catapult
so which adventure and what camp is going to yield the highest bans? I understand that given the different types chances will vary. what would be the combo with the best outcome?
So far from what i have found out, BLT has yielded the most beans(1026) by killing the innkeeper in the mag. res. with 1 potion before killing any other enemy first in that leader camp. For a total of 2544 beans if premium. 1026+513 for xp and 670+335 for loot.Quote:
Originally Posted by G_F_M
2nd most: BLT again, has yielded beans(984) by killing the innkeeper in the tavern with 1 potion before killing any other enemy first in that leader camp. For a total of 2481 beans if premium. 984+492 for xp and 670+335 for loot.
I ran a HLT and killed the magician with the potion before killing any other enemy in the DC and landed 591 beans for xp. 1892 total beans, but i used ranged supports on the WT to kill the spawn. I'm not sure if doing this affected the bean count for xp. I will run again and not use ranged support and see if it makes any difference.
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thx sammuel
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Originally Posted by Sammuel
Cool down on use not purchase. Like could 3 people in the same adventure try to use the potion on the same camp.
No cool down on use, If you have 3 in star and the other 2 players have 3 each, you can all use them freely. I think that's a waste though. I have only used 1 per adventure. Other players have used 2 or 3 on a leader. An example, killing the innkeeper with a 2nd potion on BLT mag. residence, landed 414 beans, instead of killing him with the 1st one(1026 beans). Killing him on the 3rd try with a potion landed less xp beans (187) than normal(207). In my opinion using more than 1 potion on an individual leader camp is a waste.Quote:
Originally Posted by RonEmpire
As far as a tagger using a potion on a lootspot, i don't know anyone who has. I'm still using mine when running them. If anyone uses one on a ls, post results if you kill a leader. Maybe it will award extra beans too.
sorry if this has been mentioned earlyer,but are you guys talking about starting a adventure, attacking with a star coin support, and canceling the adventure?
Is there a increased bean count for killing the boss on 2nd/3rd strike? or it's only 1st? Is it just for one boss for the adventure? (i.e. i'm in CLT now, didnt kill the Giant Bear on the first strike, can i try to kill Rivaling Tailor for example for extra beans?
Thanks
No, i have finished all of the adventures. Canceling the adventure early wouldn't work for max. amount of beans. The extra beans are from the xp beans and you wouldn't get any loot beans. If might work, starting an adventure, killing a boss w/ a potion, and then canceling the adventure for some extra beans. If anyone tries, let us know the result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serenity6
Killing the boss on 2nd strike seems to give 1/2 the amount of extra bean, while 3rd strike you end up getting less than normal. I have only used 1 per adventure, so I don't know if killing a different boss works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wujcio
An example, killing the innkeeper with a 2nd strike on BLT mag. residence, landed 414 beans, instead of killing him with the 1st one(1026 beans). Killing him on the 3rd strike with a potion landed less xp beans (187) than normal(207).
interesting... so the second hit is worth 200 beans... someone should try killing 2 bosses :>
Let me see if I understand this.
If you kill the Boss with 1 potion (first strike) you get 1026 beans. You still have to follow up with troops to kill off the camp right?
If you kill the Boss with 2 potions (2 strikes) you get 414 beans (assuming you follow up with killing camp).
What happens if you just use 1 potion (not get the boss) but finish off the camps.
Would be nice to get some table on the various combinations. (something to test on the test server?)
Well. This wouldn't be very polite to steal the XP beans from the guy who invited to his adventure?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sammuel
Well i'm sure most players would ask before hand if the player would mind. Most tags are sent after all but last leader camp is left anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by RonEmpire
It does give extra beans if you tag a leader camp and kill the boss with the potion killing him 1st as a tagger; 781 beans were given for xp on the innkeeper in the tavern for a ls on BLT.
The player running the adventure also killed the innkeeper, but in the mag. res. on 1st attempt and was also awarded extra beans. So both players were awarded their own extra beans for each boss they killed in separate leader camps.
"You still have to follow up with troops to kill off the camp right?"
(after killing the boss with weak pot)
this is a good question! Can someone check if the path to next zone opens after killing just the camp leader? Would probably make sense to use pot only after getting the quest to kill that particular boss. Would (in case of L6 in CLT) save a few hundred troops
Very cool guys! Do we know if the two lootspotters still get 1005 or 1007 beans, or does this affect their beans?
And, great additions to your guides, Evil_J. Poisoning has never been so fun.
Has anybody tried range support on tavern or mag. considering there are only3 unit types.
Unless the lootspotters used the weak potions. NO. he should not be getting xtra beans.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatMatt
And there should be an etiquette for loot spotters where they shouldn't use potions to steal the beans from the host.
Usually best to just invite loot spotters after you made a full clear. But not always easy to do on some maps.
BLT is probably the best map to use weak potion. I tried the other maps and it's not as effective there.
One thing to realize that is the last sector without potion requires about 1700+ units to clear with blocking and without blocking a lot more.
So before you even bother attacking any camps on the last sector. Just use 3 weak potions and you will save yourself a ton of troops loss.
The 1700 troops lost can be used in Black Knight and earn the star coins needed to buy the 3 potions to begin with. At least this way you will gain more loot !!
The purchase cool down is the only limitation.
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this is what i got , 2576 in total
LoL I just experimented- this is a Level22 dude, I talked into going here-
http://i.imgur.com/lIlXSOP.png
If you are interested in how we did this - go here - http://forum.thesettlersonline.net/e...&postid=224295
SORRY THIS LOOKED GOOD FOR A NIGHT!!! Its not happening, I will leave it fly for the fun of it, sorry everyone...
Thank you for info, but WeakPointPotions don't work on WT on live server.
Perhaps your right, and therefore is only going to work when Christmas is released. It then is something to look forward to :o
Cheers;
Asia
Sammuel ur right :( they fixed it .. just got thru talking to one of the euro guys, east euro, they are starting to come online right now, and BB is fixing it with the next maintenance... the xp part, I am not sure though about its ability to attk WT, I will try real hard to find out via Polish server players and let you no here kk :o Christmas goes Live, Polish first, on the 5th i'm told, therefore Christmas should be pulled off welt1 tonight, usa pst time midnight or after...
dang bummed, haha well that's testing for ya easy come easy go lol will have em dancing if I leave that new post standing dang wont I lol
Thanks Asia. Find out more for me what the FIX of Weak Potion is. I'm bummed if they fixed it so you can't get extra beans. Since I have been saving up and buying lots of Weak Potions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asiastrings
I want to know what happens now? No Xtra XP? Are weak potions worthless? Or just get the same XP as if you normally would by attack it but using weak potion the same as an attack.
i read this thread with curiousty has it been found what camp is best to use a weak potion on to give the best possible chance of extra beans
BLT Loot on 12/6/13, 1637 beans ...Killed greedy innkeeper on first potion, only needed 2 potions.
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Can you be more specific as to what you did. Saying you only need 2 potions was vague, if you killed him on the first potion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schade
Do you mean you killed him twice on the first shot (one in tavern and one in mag rez?)
What did you do exactly for those loot?Quote:
Originally Posted by canaryfudo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sammuel
Do you have the break downs for these other combinations:
Mag:
2 weak potions killing innkeeper on the 2nd try. (finish off with troops)*
3 weak potions killing innkeeper on the 3rd try.
Tav:
2 weak potions killing innkeeper on the 2nd try. (finish off with troops)*
3 weak potions killing innkeeper on the 3rd try.
*Also- I'm wondering if there is a difference in the order in which the first kill being one of the other 2 troop types.
So even though innkeeper died on 2nd potion, does the out come differ when the first troop that died was the dogs instead of the roughnecks.
Here's my loot result:
I used 3 pots on the mag residence. Killed roughnecks first pot, second pot innkeeper, third pot dogs. (auto cleared the sector so saved a ton of troops)
Used 1 pot on the tavern got rangers only. Used troops to fight the innkeeper with roughnecks.
http://forum.thesettlersonline.net/a...1&d=1386590148
how did you mange to do that with blocking? just send in attack waves and use ranged support after?Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_J
Does ranged support kill the innkeeper if he is the last one remaining? Haven't tested that.
This is the loot I got for using only 2 pots.
http://forum.thesettlersonline.net/a...1&d=1386615928
1 pot used on the mag rez, got innkeeper in the first try. So I took out the entire sector and finished off the remaining troops.
used 1 pot on the tavern but it didn't get the innkeeper. got the roughnecks instead.
attacked it with one wave of 100 recruits to kill the ranger and used ranged support to kill the innkeeper.
http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8f9f78eb.png
killed both innkeepers w/ 1st potion... 670, 335, 1824, 912....3741 total beans
is that just for BLT or all tailors??