Adventure Searches: In remembrance

Adventure Searches are now dead. Worthless. Archaic wasters of time and coin. The ability to produce mass map fragments for a pittance has led to their demise. Scouts invested in them are now doing a poor job doing treasure hunts. Sausage chains are looking at downsizing (the need for an expanded sausage market is another story). It is simply no longer worth the coin to launch a scout.

A few exceptions still to be found on plummeting adventure prices exist. Nords, Tropical Sun, Lost Skull. All of them cannot be bought from the star menu. So why can't the scouts be revamped? Why can't they find only adventures that cannot be bought using map fragments? Might need another new adventure or two, but given the slap shod way many adventures have been designed, shouldn't be too tough of a task.

I leave you with :xbow:, a man of a dieing breed, cursed to walk the haunted islands without any slow nords to shoot.

Point - think through your updates, and make sure you didn't just wipe out more content with an update then you introduced.

Well said.

all the new content from this event is crazy. the boxes have killed doing DB also. so whats next? endless marble, stone, iron, coal, and gold? lets put the geos out of bussiness too!!! lol

I really think the ratio for the mapfrags is all wrong from the new production house.. At first its loads of fun... but the end result is map frags being worth maybe .75 gc?

But at least those get consumed, the FM and WT abundance is the real problem. End game content just became cheap.. super cheap:(

We now need a rare adventure that is drops something even better than WT and FM only findable with searches. Add in SE2 and BN2 as only loot from searches and I guess its a start:(

all the new stuff is ruining the game.... look at the FM crash.. nords2 isn't worth doing anymore.. with the cheap frags and premium people can just buy SA's and get to 50 too fast, all the game is going to have soon is mostly lv 50s who are sooner or later going to get bored and quit...

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Originally Posted by KnightDestroyer

all the new stuff is ruining the game.... look at the FM crash.. nords2 isn't worth doing anymore.. with the cheap frags and premium people can just buy SA's and get to 50 too fast, all the game is going to have soon is mostly lv 50s who are sooner or later going to get bored and quit...

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thats the way the game has been since the begining. the game is coming out with new stuff but i don't think at the pace some would like. at what point do you say "i won"?

Well... i don't necessarily agree here... Making Nords 2 obsolete 3 months (or whatever it was) after release can't possibly be intentional...

Exactly what Wujcio said.
I don't think they tested the changes they implemented very well.. and I don't think alot of thought was put into what MA would do to the late game economy

The developers have never been good at balance and simply introduce content based around arbitrary ratios designed upon launch of the game.

An example of lack of foresight: production ratios of buildings. 2 hunters per butcher, sounds fine right? Nope, because they never took walk time into account when designing production ratios.

Fuscus put this idea in my head- They released MAs to close the distance between the 'rich' and 'poor'- pop wise atleast. could they be getting ready to release 'pvp' soon?- one could only hope since i have nothing to do besides HOARD things for no apparent reason.

i think you should RAGE QUIT sending me your stuff first

Well there is no point in doing adventure searches during the holidays since they don't bring back presents.

If would have been better if they made it so that adventure searches DO actually bring back presents at a higher amount or ratio. reason being that it costs coins and sausage.

I would say give it a few months after the holidays and everything will readjust. They'll introduce some new building or content I'm sure.

The only people that could afford full FM before was multimillionaires. As is, still will cost you 1.5-2m on FM.

Unemployed Adventure Explorers can always find work in the Papermills, they suddenly can't keep up with demand!

Seriously, I shifted my 17 explorers to Treasure hunts, except for my single Pillager skilled one, and then I built a Rarity House and added 4 more simple papermills and 2 more Interm ones. I am both making coin off the map frag market and doing whatever adventures I want to do, instead of paying the crazy TO prices charged in the past. The Rairity House is a great equalizer, if you have the almost 1000 presents to spend on one. Once the available surplus of paper products dries up, things should revert to almost normal.

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Unemployed Adventure Explorers can always find work in the Papermills, they suddenly can't keep up with demand!

Seriously, I shifted my 17 explorers to Treasure hunts, except for my single Pillager skilled one, and then I built a Rarity House and added 4 more simple papermills and 2 more Interm ones. I am both making coin off the map frag market and doing whatever adventures I want to do, instead of paying the crazy TO prices charged in the past. The Rairity House is a great equalizer, if you have the almost 1000 presents to spend on one. Once the available surplus of paper products dries up, things should revert to almost normal.

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I agree. I think prices are out of whack right now because the unbalanced consumption of the Science System book binders. The current buildings at level 1-2 provides just enough to produce the books. And when you shift over to making the higher end books the low end resources build up.

People who upgraded to level 5 probably have a large surplus and it feels like the map fragments are unbalanced.
Realize magic castles consume a lot of map fragments to upgrade.

And later if they decide to add more adventures for higher map fragment costs they could.

all this stuff has brought a disturbance to the settlers force

there is always a disturbance whenever new content is added- just got to prepare and adjust and prepare some more....

The longer science wears on, the more i make manuscripts and not codex.....many people need 8 manuscripts to make a single codex.

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The longer science wears on, the more i make manuscripts and not codex.....many people need 8 manuscripts to make a single codex.

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Yes. This is true. And so the consumption will eventually balance out the map fragments surplus.

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Originally Posted by TrueHead

Fuscus put this idea in my head- They released MAs to close the distance between the 'rich' and 'poor'- pop wise atleast. could they be getting ready to release 'pvp' soon?- one could only hope since i have nothing to do besides HOARD things for no apparent reason.

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OH what a delicious rumour! It better be that or I am going to rage and give GFM absolutely NOTHING!

Personally, I'd rather have my 995 presents back, and get rid of the Rarity PH. Production times in that building are whack. I won't be using mine.

you sound mad? should have waited a bit to see what other players said about it

After going through the actual numbers, I can't say that the addition of the ink buff to the game will be a long term disruption. While right now there are people who prepared supplies in advance, once these run out and people are again making supplies in real time, the supply of fragments should drop to somewhere reasonably close to previous levels. From what I can calculate, in order to make 50 fragments a day, you will need to have 4 levels of simple paper production, 3 levels of advanced paper production, and 1 level of nib production. In order to supply this, you will need 2 levels of pinewood cutter, 6 levels of hardwood cutter, and 1 level of copper mine (assuming normal rate, without geologist boost), as well as approximately 1060 units of water production/12 hours. For the cutters, you would also need 3 levels of pinewood forester and 9 levels of hardwood forester to maintain tree balance. This only addresses the supplies need to make map fragments, not additional output needed to continue to make books. The capital investment to be able to run the rarity provision house for the 30 minutes is rather high, or the prices for the required resources will be increasing as well.

If anyone is interested in the spreadsheet used, please let me know and I can post it as a shared document.

simple: the eotm will eat the majority of the time. i use 72 eotm buffs a day.