Super Water Mill

We are getting the wood production supersized with the new 3-in-1 production building. Since the introduction of epic adventures bread production almost doubled (tons of troops need to be replaced in a timely manner) and now the map fragments production also thinned the water supply even further.

Could the devs come up with some super water mill that would be comparable to the new wood production output? 5k per mill is not cutting anymore with the demand for lots of us. I am using 45k water per 12 hrs and some of my guildies running over 70k. There is no room to build wells anymore:(

What do you guys think about this idea?

yeah maybe a Reservoir, or treatment plant that you can put in the ocean to convert ocean water, that way your not taking up more land space ither

That would be a great idea. Something to put on the water (like the floating residences) that would have some decent production output (20-25k per 12hrs). Put it in gem shop it will be a best seller :)

I doubt they would do anything like this as they already have an endless supply of water for sale using the watermill, and there would be plenty of unhappy people that bought lots of those if they added something better

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Originally Posted by Plumz

That would be a great idea. Something to put on the water (like the floating residences) that would have some decent production output (20-25k per 12hrs). Put it in gem shop it will be a best seller :)

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yeah "desalination plant"?

Epic workyard is lacking a wood cutter. :-) (not exactly an all in one. more like ALL in ONE minus 2 cutters)

I would like to see and Super WaterMill that does 4x as much water. the animation could have 4 huge water wheels or
a mini waterfall with Settlers running around with buckets yelling no more Drought lol!

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Originally Posted by Steve9800

I doubt they would do anything like this as they already have an endless supply of water for sale using the watermill, and there would be plenty of unhappy people that bought lots of those if they added something better

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Everyone I know over lev 45 buys water. And most of these guys have at least dozen or more watermills. It is a room problem. I could use 30 mills but.. where can I put them? With introduction of monster epic advies wasting 3-5k of troops per run bread/brew production is stressed to limits. And now we can make maps too (also adding to water consumption). We NEED something better - super mill that can crank 3-4x times the amount of regular. Placing this on water spots and limiting it to 3 (like recyclers) I think is a great and much needed idea.

I agree with the super water building on the water idea, and limiting it like BB does with the Recycler is a great idea.

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Originally Posted by RonEmpire

Epic workyard is lacking a wood cutter. :-) (not exactly an all in one. more like ALL in ONE minus 2 cutters)

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The epic workyard stinks. Used it on test server. It's enormous and only has potential for buildings you don't really need.

Epic fail!

+1

(and to the BB's, ill have my sig fixed soon)

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Originally Posted by Oabol

The epic workyard stinks. Used it on test server. It's enormous and only has potential for buildings you don't really need.

Epic fail!

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And are extraordinarily expensive to upgrade. Well, maybe not if your sitting on 2 years worth of stock, but for me the quests are daunting.

Its not going to happen

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Originally Posted by Crazy-Beard

I would like to see and Super WaterMill that does 4x as much water. the animation could have 4 huge water wheels or
a mini waterfall with Settlers running around with buckets yelling no more Drought lol!

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How about just simply have the watermill upgrade to level 10 ? with each new levels increasing outpit significantly. hate to replace my current watermills when it could just be an upgrade pay the fees and change the graphics.

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Originally Posted by Pinkleet

We are getting the wood production supersized with the new 3-in-1 production building. Since the introduction of epic adventures bread production almost doubled (tons of troops need to be replaced in a timely manner) and now the map fragments production also thinned the water supply even further.

Could the devs come up with some super water mill that would be comparable to the new wood production output? 5k per mill is not cutting anymore with the demand for lots of us. I am using 45k water per 12 hrs and some of my guildies running over 70k. There is no room to build wells anymore:(

What do you guys think about this idea?

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I think you should just buy in market. For newer players starting the game its really their first way at making coins. This helps newer players grow and closes the gap between the really rich with islands too full for wells that are wanted to run epics constantly for loot but don't want to fork out tiny amounts of coins for water (the guys your speaking about using 70k water/12hrs should either build more wells or sleep some buildings using water), or more importantly spend a tiny 300-400 coins to replace that 70k, which for them would be nothing.

Introducing a new Super Water Mill is a great idea if your an end game player who has everything and is running epics and your RPH non-stop, but that's why there is a market there for newer player to use their islands extra space to produce excess water to sell to the higher levels. If the higher levels are too cheap to throw a few coins at TO after gaining copious amounts of loot then that's their problem, not BB's.

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Originally Posted by Oabol

The epic workyard stinks. Used it on test server. It's enormous and only has potential for buildings you don't really need.

Epic fail!

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i agree, but at least they´re trying

Just speaking as someone who invested really heavily both in buying the Watermills and arranging an island so that the **** things would fit, optimally, lemme say that this would really, really, make a bunch of people very, very angry.

I see watermills being level 10... Which would be nice.. As long as its not crazy time.. like 6 months for level 10.

We got an Improved silo at roughly 3x production, i expect a new watermill will quickly follow.

I am with draconus, instead of more space they will just increase production of key resources like water/wheat this way. It is a good work around in some ways.

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Originally Posted by RomanGodCamper

I see watermills being level 10... Which would be nice.. As long as its not crazy time.. like 6 months for level 10.

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This is actually a really good idea. +1

Or.... we could get some new content that let us build a Cloud City in the sky above our islands and I could change my name to Lando Calrissian- either way, but now we have options!!

I like this idea, but instead of adding new buildings. Work on level caps for buildings. Gettings things to lvl 5, releasing new buildings that require no licenses. You realize that buying licenses w/ gems are becoming more absolute as the years progress through the game. I have roughly 14 unused licenses at this point (and yes I have all mines running). At one point I needed to buy like 15 more licenses but due to buying buildings that don't require licenses, it has freed up those licenses.

I'm guessing its only a matter of time before they offer an improved mill now that they made it clear they are happy to charge us twice for a building that does the same thing only a tiny bit better

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Originally Posted by Oabol

The epic workyard stinks. Used it on test server. It's enormous and only has potential for buildings you don't really need.

Epic fail!

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Epic Woodyard is ok, but only for somethings.

--- COAL ---
For Coal (3 slots) - Takes the room of 5 cokers, though the odd 5x4 size might mess up other building placement such that it takes 6 normal building sizes.
** Using Pinewood fuel, EWY can produces 14k coal (unbuffed) which is equal to about 14 level 5 Coking Plants. Thus you save 14 licenses and the space for 8-9 normal sized buildings!

--- HW Sawmill ---
- From hardwood (3 slots) - Produces 4740k (unbuffed). Normal HW Sawmill, Level 5 is 470, so this is equal to 10 HW Sawmills. Saves 10 licenses and the space for 4-5 normal sized buildings.

--- HW Forester --- (Of course, these are broken right now, so not really necessary)
Produces 4968 Trees while a level 5 HW forester produces about 475 trees. So again, roughly worth 10 HW foresters. Saves 10 licenses and the space for 4-5 normal sized buildings.

The other stuff doesn't seem worth it.

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Originally Posted by Starfire512

Epic Woodyard is ok, but only for somethings.

--- COAL ---
For Coal (3 slots) - Takes the room of 5 cokers, though the odd 5x4 size might mess up other building placement such that it takes 6 normal building sizes.
** Using Pinewood fuel, EWY can produces 14k coal (unbuffed) which is equal to about 14 level 5 Coking Plants. Thus you save 14 licenses and the space for 8-9 normal sized buildings!

--- HW Sawmill ---
- From hardwood (3 slots) - Produces 4740k (unbuffed). Normal HW Sawmill, Level 5 is 470, so this is equal to 10 HW Sawmills. Saves 10 licenses and the space for 4-5 normal sized buildings.

--- HW Forester --- (Of course, these are broken right now, so not really necessary)
Produces 4968 Trees while a level 5 HW forester produces about 475 trees. So again, roughly worth 10 HW foresters. Saves 10 licenses and the space for 4-5 normal sized buildings.

The other stuff doesn't seem worth it.

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You are overlooking the major changes to deposits and woodcutting that are coming. Many deposits are only 5 in size, so a larger deposit, only 5 will get used (i think). this makes the epic workyard next to worthless as a forester.

its sad that the things we would want this to replace most (farm, fisher, water) it wont have an option for.

What changes to deposits? Are they increasing the size of wood depos?

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Originally Posted by Pinkleet

What changes to deposits? Are they increasing the size of wood depos?

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They are changing how production buildings interact and choose deposits.

Didn't they try this before xmas and that was a complete fiasko? I just don't get it. How hard it is to change a line of code and make 200 wood depo from 5? Instead they are changing mechanics of the game? Seriously? I am sure that is gonna fly super fine ...I swear "common sense 101" - should be mandatory in colleges...

maybe it's me seeing this from a different perspective. but shouldn't the bb's fix problems first BEFORE adding new buildings.

i like the idea and all. but for a later time imo

Ok seems like some people are like "I tried really hard to make my water production work, don't change anything!" others like "newbies need to sell water to get strong don't change anything!" I think both are somewhat valid but altogether incorrect.
If you had to work THAT hard, then it's definitely a broken system and you should be happy other players won't have to go through that pain. If you think noobs NEED the item to sell. Let me tell you. I never sold water, nobody did when it was 1-3 coins/k and I didn't buy gems until I was lvl 48. The game was fun as hell still, I got a good guild, and I finally started selling LS and making some money after premium came out now my island is pretty great. Don't make the game less fun for some players in order to benefit others. That's stupid.
We DEFINITELY NEED SOMETHING to increase water production and limit space on our islands.
Another ocean building is an AMAZING perfect stupendous idea. Floating houses are capped we have 20+ spaces for a building like that to occupy. Make 5 buildings that sit on the sea and purify water. Lol the settlers learn desalinization or something. It would be sick but make it cost 2.9k gems, make them tradable so EVERYONE can get them for gc if they get a gem buyer. Make each one be 3x the power of a reg watermill.