Improved Silos

New Improved Silo - cost is 1995 gems. Base production time is 4 minutes. Cost to upgrade and move is same as old silo. Given Zeus lately, i expect it will sell near if not over the price per gem that MA's sold for. So 20-30k coin cost on Zeus if it goes live as is. Given the under supply of regular silos, I doubt the silo market will fall, so much as stop rising by 1k a month.

The 4 minute production time is is troublesome as the faster a buildings production time is, the greater percentage of total production time is spent walking. New silos will have at lowest a production time of 4:24. Most will be 4:40 or higher. As it is currently on test, due to the amount of time lost, one new silo replaces approximately 2.7 old silos.

This messes up a clean exchange of 3 old silos for 1 new silo, and forces people to either inefficiently use/buff silos or forced to build in large, exact quantities.

Could we simply have the new silo for purposes of convenience give 3x the deposit refill, but same speed? if i am going to be scrapping ~ 50 old lvl 5 silos, i'd like it to be a clean experience with no cause for hesitation (such as moving a LOT of lvl 5 farms on a completely full island to make sure all my silos have minimized walking)

Test server thread on this issue: http://forum.tsotesting.com/threads/...silos-the-flaw

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Originally Posted by Draconus2004

The 4 minute production time is is troublesome as the faster a buildings production time is, the greater percentage of total production time is spent walking. New silos will have at lowest a production time of 4:24. Most will be 4:40 or higher. As it is currently on test, due to the amount of time lost, one new silo replaces approximately 2.7 old silos.

This messes up a clean exchange of 3 old silos for 1 new silo, and forces people to either inefficiently use/buff silos or forced to build in large, exact quantities.

Could we simply have the new silo for purposes of convenience give 3x the deposit refill, but same speed? if i am going to be scrapping ~ 50 old lvl 5 silos, i'd like it to be a clean experience with no cause for hesitation (such as moving a LOT of lvl 5 farms on a completely full island to make sure all my silos have minimized walking)

Test server thread on this issue: http://forum.tsotesting.com/threads/...silos-the-flaw

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I don't think is troublesome. I mean..come on people, are we really so lazy? Lets have a little challenge in this game. And who said we should have a "clean exchange" ?
In reality, even if they make the cycle 12 min and 3x output, it would be hard to have a clean exchange. I agree is going to be much closer to 3 (up from 2.7), but you wont have a perfect 3 anyway :)

the 3x better is very misleading because of the walk times involved. so its not a clean 3 silo replacement.

the advantage of a shorter production time is that it doesn't take as long for it to jump back into the nearest wheat field.


currently the behavior is if the nearest wheatfield is maxed out it will WALK very very far to another wheat field and spend 12minutes+ there before deciding if it will refill the nearest one. the time it is spent far away is now reduced significantly.

i would rather it was a straight 3:1 ratio but i will just keep some of my level 5 regulars around to cover the difference if needed- thanx for the math tho mate

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Originally Posted by RonEmpire

the 3x better is very misleading because of the walk times involved. so its not a clean 3 silo replacement.

the advantage of a shorter production time is that it doesn't take as long for it to jump back into the nearest wheat field.


currently the behavior is if the nearest wheatfield is maxed out it will WALK very very far to another wheat field and spend 12minutes+ there before deciding if it will refill the nearest one. the time it is spent far away is now reduced significantly.

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Problem fairly easily solved by having farms in 2-3 adjacent sectors - also right now a silo jumping to another sector - no big deal- means the farm for that silo has a full field. Once this hits, will be harder to manage perfect balance on a field (the production time difference for ALL 11 silos v. farms combined in my sector 1 is 16s). i wont manage such perfection with the new silos.

From what I saw on the test server, this is very misleading. And is not worth it to replace regular silos with the super silos.

I wont be buying these as I just bought lots of normal silo's, thanks for the heads up BB!!!!

when are these coming out?

I am quite happy with the silos I have, but thanks for the effort BB.

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Originally Posted by Carcator

I am quite happy with the silos I have, but thanks for the effort BB.

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I agree.

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Originally Posted by ZolaRZeaR

when are these coming out?

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Sometime between now and never. They have a pretty crummy track record of follow-through. I'm holding off upgrading my farm-related builds until I know if this is/isn't coming out.

It's actually not too terrible of an idea but it seems the kind of thing that should first be introduced in an event (e.g., imp storehouse).

Fully expect the Devs to come up with an equivalent improved/enhanced farm to match the new silo.

Okay, why would they release Improved Silo, and then pull it away, one week later??

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Originally Posted by Polar7Bear

Okay, why would they release Improved Silo, and then pull it away, one week later??

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to start a GEMoGanzaaaa!!!!

Cash Grab. :-)

Gets people to buy it asap instead of waiting around for gem traders to sell it to them.

Just an update - the date on the news post was incorrect. The Improved Silo will remain in the Shop until March 12th maintenance. That being said, the developers have been receiving a lot of negative feedback about that and are considering other options. I'll let you know when there is more information.

why not just make new watermills BB?, then no problem with timing

the new watermills would probably be 1 minute, then lose half their time to walk.

Well, BB pretty much served notice that buying gems is like throwing money out the car window at 200mph - what are you going to improve next? I'm afraid to buy anything now....you should have allowed a trade in of like 3 old to 1 new given that it's not really a 3x buff (as demonstrated above) - why would anyone want to spend gems on a building now when it might be outdated the next time BB needs money?

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Originally Posted by BB_Rawren

Just an update - the date on the news post was incorrect. The Improved Silo will remain in the Shop until March 12th maintenance. That being said, the developers have been receiving a lot of negative feedback about that and are considering other options. I'll let you know when there is more information.

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Thanks BB_Rawren for doing all your can.


Based on the posting from: http://www.thesettlersonline.com/en/homepage

"Dear Settlers,

Yesterday it was announced that the Improved Silo would be available for a limited time span only. Your feedback about this was discussed by The Settlers Online team today.

The time limitation was communicated on short notice. To address the many concerns raised, a decision was made today: Improved Silo will be available in the shop permanently."


They should have waited til next week to post that. LOL. Get as much money as they can. :-)

I guess we should know by now that they FAIL at communication.

Dev. can barely give us a Dev Diary roadmap let alone tell us anything about limited offerings. Messing up march 4th with march 12th and now not informing us of the changes on the .net I'm always getting my information from other website sources than the .net

Apparently it takes a lot of negative feed back for them to do something.

Just wanted to throw a TY out to the Dev's for listening to our feedback about the "limited time offer" of improved silo and making it a permanent release

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Originally Posted by RonEmpire

Thanks BB_Rawren for doing all your can.


Based on the posting from: http://www.thesettlersonline.com/en/homepage

"Dear Settlers,

Yesterday it was announced that the Improved Silo would be available for a limited time span only. Your feedback about this was discussed by The Settlers Online team today.

The time limitation was communicated on short notice. To address the many concerns raised, a decision was made today: Improved Silo will be available in the shop permanently."


They should have waited til next week to post that. LOL. Get as much money as they can. :-)

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Perhaps it's a good sign that they did not wait till next week to make the change, but instead made an immediate decision based on player feedback?

Perhaps; however, a better sign would have been to never consider making it a flash-in-the-pan in the first place. Diminishing confidence in development or management erodes the player-base far, far faster than ennui toward the game.

How true!

Has anyone noticed that the improved silo says 7 days for the last upgrade but it actually takes 10 days to do it? They need to change the number in the wording.

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Originally Posted by Lesssa

Has anyone noticed that the improved silo says 7 days for the last upgrade but it actually takes 10 days to do it? They need to change the number in the wording.

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mine took 7 days to go to lvl 5 you might be having other issues

Is it true that if you are gone for 3 days your island shuts down??

yes