Less Granite Drops from Adventures?

So, something I've been pondering about for a few weeks now, since Christmas ended. I'm still adventuring the same as I was before...which equates to at least 1 adventure a day if not more. However, for two weeks straight, almost all of my loot was Titanium Ore in the first slot. Sometimes ewl and saltpeter, but definitely NO granite. After a few weeks, I did get a couple granite drops, and NOW I am back on receiving mostly Titanium Ore again for the last week. Has something been changed so that granite is dropping at a less rate than before? Am I the only one noticing this? (I know I'm not since I've talked to several on the server voicing the same thing.) I am just wondering if officially something has changed? I can't believe we are all of a sudden ALL that unlucky. Anyone heard anything?

I do know that granite and exotic wood pits are being tested; however, I don't want to assume that this is the cause for the decrease in drops. Some official word would be appreciated.

see also this post from BB.
forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/24194-Where-did-all-the-granaite-go?p=248765&viewfull=1#post248765

but, I absolutely agree with you!

Did a Premium over the weekend and got 16k granite in total. I'd say there is very little wrong with the granite drop rate. Some people just go on "unlucky" streaks. Been there, done that. It's improbable but definitely not impossible.

plenty of granite from loot coming in here this month, last month i had an unusually high amount of salt

570k granite from drops this weekend for my guild (recorded, i am sure a few hundred thousand more unrecorded) friday-saturday-sunday.

i myself have had average luck on granite lately, with a bit above average on DB. would of been higher but some players like myself did mostly fairytales for beans.

Yeah I've been through dry spots before, but never had it where its been a theme for so long lol Of course, AFTER I posted this, I did get granite twice and then 3 drops of titanium ore yesterday. So I know the granite exists. Perhaps I am just unlucky lately and titanium ore wants to be my new best friend *sigh*. Least I am stocking up on titanium bars! LOL Ty rinzeliscia for the link to the post. I was thinking someone probably had started one, because I had seen others talk about the same, but just hadn't been able to find it. Glad to see that the official word is that the granite drops haven't changed. I will just suffer through my spell, and be thankful that its titanium ore and not saltpeter that wants to befriend me so!

I got Lumberjack exo logs for 3 days straight. then had 2 days in a row of granite drops.
It's all so random. Some players have all the luck

been running alot of RBs last 2 weeks and drop rates are normal out of 100+ i've done last 2 weeks the drop rate averages out just fine

Guess I just wanted someone to tell me it was all me lol Thanks all ^_^

course just noticed all the granite is on Zeus...maybe its an Ares conspiracy!! (so kidding lol)

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Originally Posted by Faith_4

just noticed all the granite is on Zeus...

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Which makes me wonder if the drop rate fluctuates on a server-to-server basis. See this post.

I also have had a very "poor luck", where i have done my last 7 adventures with no Granite received at all. I would say this is just a coincidence, but too many people in my guild are saying the same thing is happening to them; combine that with the fact that the price of granite has gone from 1:1c to nearly 1:2c and it's obvious that the problem is global. Now add in that Granite-Pit is on the verge of being released. Everything here points to Dev's changing loot drops to sell Granite-Pits.

12 adventures 1 granite drop. The most dry streak I had was 5. Ever. I think some of you who still are getting decent drop rate are not "normal" just extremely lucky. Wait till your granite drop chance get to the new "normal" and then you will join the pissed off crowd. I talked to my guildies and it seems everyone noticed a big change in the loot drop. People said it was around 30-60% before Xmas, now is more like 20% or less.

There is no doubt in my mind BB has lowered the granite drop rate to sell more of their "amazing" granite pits. Granite prices skyrocketed since Xmas and it has been already 2 months and they are not coming down simply because there is less granite drop in adventures. You can speculate all you want, numbers show otherwise. And 2 months of high granite prices speak louder than all speculations. Thanks BB for your 'nerf". New silos was first now this is another reason not to spend even 1 more buck on you. Keep this up and by end of the year watch out for some company "trimming" once gem sales start drying up. Seems game industry is the only one that is purely unable to learn from mistakes. Amusing really...:)

Judging by the rising number of people moving from being disappointed to pissed off at BB and the "development" of the game I would suggest saving the pics of current team. I don't think these guys understand. No special "powers" will help them keep employment once gem sales drop in half or more.

You guys are in a customer service industry and since the security of your job depends on your customers you better start paying attention to what your customers express. Wouldn't be surprised September quarter comes and some of those "special powers" will be filling up new employment applications:)

Tip from 15 years veteran MMO gamer. DO NOT piss off people by nerfing loot drops. EVER. Do what you wish. See the results by summer.

Really....people do not understand the term "RNG" - Random Number Generator. Given many advs have a 25% or so chance at granite, not surprising when it does not work. the odds of only getting granite once in 7? pretty darn good. 44.5% chance that 7 straight RB, I would get 0 or 1 granite drops. Look at the advs on a macro scale and it balances out, and not just whiners ;).

lol

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Originally Posted by Polar7Bear

I also have had a very "poor luck", where i have done my last 7 adventures with no Granite received at all. I would say this is just a coincidence, but too many people in my guild are saying the same thing is happening to them; combine that with the fact that the price of granite has gone from 1:1c to nearly 1:2c and it's obvious that the problem is global. Now add in that Granite-Pit is on the verge of being released. Everything here points to Dev's changing loot drops to sell Granite-Pits.

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Oh, also, granite rising fast is NOT from less granite drops. Its a combination of the market returning to normal as the big spenders return to buying granite from a lull due to MA boxes combined with a dramatic upswing in inflation from the new Employee of the Month badges making most gold chains, x3 buffed instead of x2 buff.

I would agree with you Droconus, but the 7 adv's I did were a combination of 1 Nords (37.5%* granite drop chance) 4 Surprise Attack (33.3%* Granite drop chance) and 2 Stealing from the Rich (50%* granite drop chance) the math equation then, for a total strike out on granite is .625 x .666 x .666 x .666 x .666 x .5 x .5 = .031** meaning there was only a 3% chance of this happening to me; unlikely but possible. Also RB gives 25%* chance granite drop. I did the equation and it comes to a 13% chance for you to go 7 straight and get no granite; again, unlikely but possible. Now in my mind this becomes a "play" by the Dev's not because it happened to you or to me but because it is happening across the board.

*see cempire.org summary of adventures **equation formula (percentage chance in decimal form of not getting granite multiplied by the percentage chance of not getting granite in the next adv and so forth. if an adventure has 1% granite chance then the formula input for this adv would be a 99% or in decimal form a .99)

you win some you lose some. when ppl were saying that RBN loot was changed (for worse) i was hitting double codex in multiple loots + granite pretty much every time. Now i cant get granite if my life depended on it (codex/tomes still pop up from time to time tho). When someone* goes on a long streak of granite they (most of the time) wont make it known to public and in particularly post on forum, but when things dont go their way is when people usually go public.

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I would agree with you Droconus, but the 7 adv's I did were a combination of 1 Nords (37.5%* granite drop chance) 4 Surprise Attack (33.3%* Granite drop chance) and 2 Stealing from the Rich (50%* granite drop chance) the math equation then, for a total strike out on granite is .625 x .666 x .666 x .666 x .666 x .5 x .5 = .031** meaning there was only a 3% chance of this happening to me; unlikely but possible. Also RB gives 25%* chance granite drop. I did the equation and it comes to a 13% chance for you to go 7 straight and get no granite; again, unlikely but possible. Now in my mind this becomes a "play" by the Dev's not because it happened to you or to me but because it is happening across the board.

*see cempire.org summary of adventures **equation formula (percentage chance in decimal form of not getting granite multiplied by the percentage chance of not getting granite in the next adv and so forth. if an adventure has 1% granite chance then the formula input for this adv would be a 99% or in decimal form a .99)

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a 13% is an event you will likely see occur at some point. play long enough and you will be seeing the .05% events. and i took a half dozen graduate courses in probability. i know how to calculate this stuff ;). without knowing the exact mix though i could only guess.

So i keep track of these things. In the last 23 days i have done 135 RB loots. I have gotten percentage wise 24% granite, 23% logs, 24% *** ore, 28% salt. At one point i had a run of 18 RB with getting granite only 1 time. So even though i had a horrible streak with the law of large numbers the percentages work out on what i should expect.

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Originally Posted by Bigbobdog

So i keep track of these things. In the last 23 days i have done 135 RB loots. I have gotten percentage wise 24% granite, 23% logs, 24% *** ore, 28% salt. At one point i had a run of 18 RB with getting granite only 1 time. So even though i had a horrible streak with the law of large numbers the percentages work out on what i should expect.

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I usually get granite 5-8 Times in a row on adventures. Then I will start getting Exotic Wood Logs, Saltpeter or Titanium Ore for like 10 adventures then back to Granite for 5-8 times in a row and repeat.

I dont doubt that RGC but the point is it can come and it can go and you need large numbers to see that the percentage balances itself out.

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I dont doubt that RGC but the point is it can come and it can go and you need large numbers to see that the percentage balances itself out.

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I don't really pay attention to the Percentage of it. If I get granite, I get it. If I don't, I don't.

I was just curious to see if anything had changed after Christmas event. My post wasn't at all about whining, but curiosity. I am fully aware that sometimes you go on streaks of only gettng titanium ore or saltpeter...it happens. A month worth of doing adventures daily and no granite had me questioning though, hence my post. I have gotten a few granite drops since then, but nothing like I was getting. Not saying my luck isn't bad, cause apparently it is, and I can live with it. Its not going to stop me from adventuring. Just wanted others thoughts, which is what I got...can handle those thoughts being both positive and negative in nature and glad to see at least some are getting granite still! :)

Things changed after Xmas. Check the granite prices of 1700-1800c for 1k an average and tell me what the hell is going on with all the 50ies who don't need it anymore running 2 RB's a day. BB nerfed the drop period. Of course you are going to get granite still. It wasn't removed from loot tables...

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Originally Posted by Pinkleet

Things changed after Xmas. Check the granite prices of 1700-1800c for 1k an average and tell me what the hell is going on with all the 50ies who don't need it anymore running 2 RB's a day. BB nerfed the drop period. Of course you are going to get granite still. It wasn't removed from loot tables...

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I think coin inflation has more to do with granite prices increasing.

the gold tower increased granite prices. also ppl r hoarding granite like crazy since its so high atm. besides lv 50 gotta have something to hoard :P