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I take it Easter is not starting yet.
Will the change to weak point potions and ranged supports include a fix so that using those adventure buffs on an enemy camp no longer reduces the total reward for that camp?
Okay, forgive me if this feedback is long, but want to give you my thoughts on this.
So, new collectibles and collections to find, not very excited about this, But it can probably/might be fun to search the island for new things. On the other hand, revealing all remaining collectibles on the home island.. I'm excited for that... Finally won't have to search the entire island where your friend found the collectible but instead, they can pin point it for you. Thumbs up for that! Woot!Quote:
Originally Posted by BB_Rawren
I am 100% Excited for this. Not sure why, But the thought of new adventures are always great. The fact that they are cooperative adventures is even better, get to do them with Friends, and the fact that there is 6 new adventures is even better! The Bone Church will be a interesting building to have on the Island which will be fairly good. I've always wanted one on my island to see out it looks with 2 tombs in front of it and now that it's possible to get one as a reward.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB_Rawren
I'm glad there is going to be improvements done to the mail. It's been kinda annoying and glitch out for me for the past day or so. Glad that there will be arrows to show for sorting it out by type. The "X" is a big issue for sure when it was getting cut off glad that its being fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB_Rawren
Everything else from the 3rd row to the 8th is all great and glad that there is fixes being done and improvements.
okay, there is a few things in this list that I think I don't agree with. but let me start at the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB_Rawren
I am 100% Excited being able to upgrade my Village Schools to level 5... I've been waiting for like a month on this. Very happy that I will be able to save resources now for this. Glad I gotten 6 Village Schools when I did.
Trici's Supply crate, I didn't buy any and probably won't because I'm happy with the buffs I can make and stuff already. So... yeah.. meh...
okay, so, everything else looks good, however. I have ONE PROBLEM .... The fact that we now can only use Weak Point Potion's and ranged support once on a enemy camp... that is bull......... I don't understand why the Devs are doing that... Why can't they leave it alone... they keep on nerfing this... Sooner or later, no one will ever buy them and people will just hoard there Star Coins. We are happy the way it is... but instead.. you are taking it away.... WHY!!!... But I'm sure you have your reasons probably.
Do NOT limit the range support and weak potion....and making someone pay gems to not strain their eyes on collectibles.. seriously?... Bone church from loot seems cool, and it's nice to know village schools are going to be finally worth buying.
I guess we should start buying all of the worst buildings/items during an event and in gem shop and hope they will be changed in the future (Village school)- total nonsense.....
I just don't understand. The only thing that might warrant the change to WPP is the 4x WPP used on DB adventure for a quick loot. Because of the time limit on purchasing WPP you can only do the 3way loot swaps every 8 days anyway. So once every 8 days you get a chance on a quick loot 3x times if you doing it with 2 other players who also have 4 WPP. Is this really so terrible? Last time I checked nothing was affected by this THAT much to make those changes...
And to prevent this from happening in new adventures just introduce 1 or 2 more Leader's camps to be defeated in order to finish the adventure. And leave those wpp alone pls. you already messed them up enough with the freaking bean bug. Sigh..
I stated this already but no one seems to get it. The history of MMO games proves it over and over. Nerfs and bugs are the main reasons people quit games. Stop nerfing and get on bug fixing or here comes august quarter and some heads will be on chopping block in the Dev team. We are not going to buy gems if you keep bugging/nerfing your own game... There is a long dry gem period coming after Easter event and with summer ahead player base will thin out, so will also your cash flow from gem shop. You are agitating your player base in front of a long few months when gem purchases will run dry. Not very smart. You are not dealing with kids here but with customers. Don't do what other dev teams did in other games. Just a suggestion...
All these bad changes makes me think that competition infiltrated a rogue developer in BB studio with the main objective of destroying months of good work. Find him ! And fire him !...or even better, ask him to train 10,000 troops ;)
lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Fuscus
The co-operative adventures and the new adventures are exciting. The village school upgrades is good too.
The nuke changes are disappointing. It alters the strategy significantly and the note doesn't adequately describe the change. The nuke nerf really disrupts the star coin values. There is already a lack of options for lv50 players and star coins -- so losing options for using nukes really disrupts high-level players.
"• The Bone Church is available as a reward for one of the new adventures. It provides space for more settlers."
Wow. I'm amazed that they actually listened to one of my suggestions.
All I have to say is you wow. You guys actually listened to a suggestion that I've made.
Making Bone Church a building for a reward. AND allowing it to have population instead of just decoration.
Good job! (Now the question remains is if the population is the same as what I had suggested as well.)
Has anybody managed to get a bone church during testing? any ideas on the population size?
Totally agree with you there.Quote:
Originally Posted by RomanGodCamper
I'm happy about the village schools being upgradeable. Sucks for those who didn't buy them when they had the chance. :-)
Nukes are expensive - but a way to skip some things that are very.....annoying. We have to be strategic about where/when we use them. Such a change would make them virtually worthless.
I can't believe I just spent all this effort to get to lvl 50 only to lose the one thing I wanted to buy with star coins.. (the loss of the DB killing WPP)..
Now when people ask me what is there to do after lvl 50.. I honestly have to say.. I have no idea :\
Aqua-Dog, you could say that you chase your tail.
Ok I spent a year getting to level 50 and one of the best things I can buy with star coins that I earned is the WPP and Ranged...Now u wanna limit how we are able to use them??? That's just wrong and a totally unnecessary change. Please change this before the patch and don't implement it. I dont see how this bothers UBI that they feel the need to change it at all.
leave both the nukes and village schools how they are!
As to the mailbox, the change that would be useful is to allow us to delete from the outbox. Or, don't put all of the 'you buffed your friend's building' notices in the outbox. That renders it useless.
Was it picking a particular player's nickname?! I just can't help wondering. :DQuote:
MAIL SYSTEM FIXES
• If a player declines a guild invitation, the mail in the outbox had the wrong nickname in the subject
I agree with those who are unhappy by changes (yet again) to WPP & RS weapons, especially without reasonable explanation.
Please don't do it. (<- This will be the last time I'm polite about it...)
village school change is a plus. (they were kind of a bit useless before). if you didn't get to buy them during Halloween to max out having 6. I'm sure they'll figure out something to let players get 6. since it does make them money.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueHead
the new nuke changes are bad thing.
The change to the Village schools arent good imo- this means that in the future more buildings will probably be changed and most likely not for the better, how after 2+ years of a building being out are you just going to change how it works? It was a terrible building back in the day and most people avoided it because of how bad it was and now those people are being punished for not being dumb enough to buy them back then.
Why does BB make changes for change sake and not for player's sake?
The change is actually better because it will reduce the need for you to produce so many bread and converting them to settlers in the provision house. And by comparison it can in theory replace an entire bread production to save you space with just 1 village house.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueHead
We complain about how we need more space on the island right? Because of all these production change. This build essentially does exactly what a lot of us needs.
They only thing I can say is that those who didn't get the building should be able to get the building again just to be fair. Since the change improved something and there was a limited timeframe to get acquire them.
So if anything you should be complaining about is not a building improvement change but rather how you can be compensated in terms of getting more of the building.
I didnt mean to say that this change was negative for the actual building itself, rather i said that- 'this means that in the future more buildings will probably be changed and most likely not for the better (knowing that the devs like to nerf or devalue things)' and that- "It was a terrible building back in the day and most people avoided it because of how bad it was and now those people are being punished for not being dumb enough to buy them back then."
So yes, i feel like if UBI is going to change the functions or ability to increase lvls of a building which before this update the building was extremely terrible, then they do need to make the max amount of this building available to the people who refused to buy it in the past. Should we just expect from now on that buildings that are not worth buying from the gem shop or during event times are going to be changed in the future and make them worth the cost?
when in doubt...whip it out i.e. credit card
I was going to buy gems today. Because of the proposed changes pertaining to RS and WPP I am not. Hopefully enough people have spoken up about that proposed change that BB will not implement it. I believe that if they do I'm done here, and will move on to a game where there are still meaningful rewards for high level players. Just my 2 cents.
At this point. I sort of expect that older buildings become outdated and replaced by newer buildings.
Like a lot of MMOs, gears eventually get replaced or upgraded to a newer version. So long as the rate of that upgrade doesn't happen instantly. So that you can make use of whatever it for the time being.
Look at the "Residence" building for example. It's actually a terrible building and nobody should be upgrading it past 3. When "Nobles" are around the corner.
Now we look at "Silos" being replaced by "Improved Silos".
"Noobles"/WhiteCastle/WitchTowers are replaced by "Frozen Manors".
Village Schools being upgraded is a plus.
If in the future, when they "nerf" something- that means they down grade the actual building functionality. That would be very bad for sure.
Improving the game is okay.
Now if only they would improve the Magnificent Residence to make it worth the bean cost that would be a plus.
I expect them to come up with a Rare Barracks building later (like the Rare Provision House).
Technically, the Deer Stalkers have made Hunters a bit useless.
Do NOT limit the range support and weak potion. I say again 'Do NOT' limit the range support and weak potion. Hiss Spit and Shred. I am looking forward to the coop adventures
This is the first time UBI has ever changed a building without making a completely different building to take its place- all of those examples you gave do not pertain to this case of the village schools.
I am not sure if this update is a good thing (long term speaking)- I feel like this is UBI's way to subliminally tell us to buy all the terrible buildings/content in gem shop and event shop because there is a CHANCE that that particular building will be changed.
Now back to your point(s) of buildings being replaced by improved NEW versions- this could also be a bad thing (long term speaking)- If you buy gems, why buy buildings now when they will be replaced?- especially if you cannot get a refund on your item or pay the gem difference to get the newer version. In my honest opinion, this is a way to make people hesitant to buy particular buildings because they will just make NEW and improved ones, so you might as well wait. (i doubt they will improve or make a newer/better type building of the improved silo or the improved storehouse- therefore making these the only 2 buildings (excluding ecm and gem pit) that are safe to purchase without fearing a newer building will replace them).
Hunters production wise are better than deerstalkers- even though i replaced my hunters with deerstalkers because i do not like having to make/buy depos, but i wasted quite a bit more building space on my isle going with stalkers over hunters (which - island space is a big problem for most players), if the stalker had the same or better production as the hunter then yes, i would call the hunters useless.
replacing a building is def better than updating/changing a building- if people decided not to buy the original building, they can still purchase the new/upgraded version of it, instead of completely missing out
Are all 6 of these quests true co-op, or will a couple of them be single player with the possibility to invite? We could use a few more potential 'loners' that aren't really short or with a bunch of mini-quests within.
it's the 6 from test server. you need the specified amount of players clearing each zone to finishQuote:
Originally Posted by Koshko
See problem with that is you can either choose to wait forever. Or you can make the best of it now. At what point do you stop waiting and actually using it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueHead
This argument is like saying New Phones are coming out that will replace the current ones that will be better. So what are you going to do wait? That's what a lot of people do these days with technology. You wait for the next one. And then what do you do? Oh there will be a newer one later. I'll wait some more. So you're always going to be in an endless waiting period.
Residence building < whitecastle/pirate hut < Noble < Witch Tower < Frozen Manor < (something later)
Besides, the whole newer building and better is just another way for them to make money. Cash Grab.
We already have Generals, Veterans, Majors. I'm sure they'll be a newer general later that will be better than 270.
Are you going to wait? Or are you going to buy the majors (assuming that you haven't already that is).
The new MMA general for easter is coming out and he's only 220. Do you think they'll have a 250 version later?
Are you going to wait on buying the new general?
It wouldn't surprise me later if they decided to do things like allow current buildings to be upgraded to 10. This is something that 'changes' something existing.
I mean if they made village schools upgradeable to 5. What's preventing them from going to a level 6 or 10 later on all buildings?
Aside comment,
The funny thing is, I had this gut feeling they were going to make the village school house upgradable or improve it somehow like maybe adjust the rate from 2hrs down to something lower. I figured, well, I should buy them anyways just in case, because they're limited offerings and they might not bump the gems version limit up any higher. I had talked to EvilJ about it and he was like nah. It's not worth the pumpkin. And now he's regretting not buying it. LOL. But yea, if you guys didn't get the 3 offered this past halloweeen or the previous years- I truly feel for you guys. I'd be upset too. Hopefully, BB sees that and makes the needed adjustments. Cuz that is wrong of them and messed up. Then again it sucks for those who didn't get to buy the Grimm Reaper the previous year. A lot of people have 2 grimm reapers and I only have 1. And it's not available in the gem shop to get a 2nd one. Same goes for people who missed out on the free gold tower this past christmas. max possible is 4. but current new players can only get a max of 3. What should they do about "new players" who come later and missed out on all these limited time offerings?
back to the village schools...- you cant wait for the better version of this building since the original building is being changed.. I cant sit and complain about how it is unfair that the people who avoided buying this building the past few years because of how terrible it is/was but i really dont care anymore, if they make the max limit available for everyone who avoided buying them because they were total trash that is awesome! if not then whatever. I simply state my opinion(s) in my post and clearly we are not all going to agree on every subject, this discussion went on from talking about the village schools to buildings/content that have nothing to do with the upcoming patch. Overall even if the max numbers of village schools was available in the gem shop i most likely wont buy them- #1- Bakeries are still better- especially since u can sell bread and use bread for several different things (depos, baskets, settlers) and schools only go toward pop. #2- I have 36k pop, i am never hurting/low on troops. #3 relates back to #1- my isle is all about production and trade and village schools wont help me there.
I am nearly speaking for the people who care that they have been cheated because they chose not to buy a terrible building which is now being changed after several years of it being in the game.
-side note- u are comparing generals to buildings- if we were limited to the amount of generals you can have like we are spaces then yes, maybe i would wait for the 250 MMA general, again another point of yours that has nothing to do with the original discussion.
True. We're getting slightly off topic. But the discussion was about making changes to existing building. With the specific one related to the patch notes being the Village School.
The only feedback I can offer for this topic (feedback for patch 3/27) is great to see Village School being improved on. Sucks that it was done AFTER the limited time offering was available. So I suggest they increase the limited offerings in the Gem shop to 6 instead of 3.
And the nerf to Weak Potion and Ranged Support. They are terrible and makes nukes worthless. Thus making Star Coins almost worthless, since there aren't a whole lot of things to buy other than 100 Gems.
did dev make boo boo?
Please don't change up the nukes - Weak point potion and Ranged attack. They already are not cheap, and that high value of them is worth it, when we finally get to use them in an unlimited capacity. Imo, it will greatly diminish their value, if limited. Will you lower the cost for them, if you limit their usage too? Not much else for 50s to do with their star coins, either.
Also, I didn't have time to read all of the forums, but when does Easter actually start, and if I have 2 veteran generals right now, 1 bought with gems, and one got last Easter, can I get another vet from this Easter event?
Well, that's my feedback, and I am sticking to it.
Just what we need. Less stuff to keep lvl 50s interested.
Thank you for listening to our feedback.
Just wondering if they're going to replace the MSE buffs with the 'new' version, or leave them as the grandfathered nukes.
Or if there will also be 'new' MSE's and 'old' MSE's -- which will make trading lootspots a nightmare.
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