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Since we're not supposed to call out bad traders anymore, lets make a new list
of trusted players. (there's an old one somewhere)
Post names of people (and guilds) you know who sell loot spots and gem items
who are known to be trustworthy.
http://tinyurl.com/tso-trader
A trustworthy list sounds more positive than the opposite list.
if ppl will post names here i'll make an alphabetized spreadsheet...one for ares and one for zeus
Trusted loot spot traders, or trusted people in general?
Wouldnt it be easier to list trusted guilds tags? If a guild leader lets bad apples stay in their guild then that poisons the lot of them imo and because its such a bother to try and memorized dozens of people's names I really dont buy LS from guildless people. Anywho even if you do make a list of trusted traders it would need their guild tag included as well because generally the bad actors are making alts that have a name only one letter different from a major seller of LS and generally these alts dont get into the same guild as the person they are impersonating.
Traders/Guild tag sounds like a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Milo_Orpheus
I'll go with Deano1978 - Leader of Guild Isles of Atlantis. Pretty reliable.
I agree. Trusted guilds and no-guild players that are trusted.
If someone from my guild (Lords of Discipline) is running scams, we kick them out. Furthermore, I will personally refund the scammed amount. It's important that our guild be trusted.
* Note that I define a scam as promising but not delivering a LS (or delivering it outside of the normal time frame). If you bought something that was just overpriced, I'm not providing a refund.
both is fine..guilds and players
the point of a list was so you dont have to memorize names. just check the list
Scientist...i focused in on loot spots and gem sellers b/c thats just about the only way left you can get scammed. but feel free to list any trusted players.
i will reiterate, as ive said on another thread, that receiving a ff loot spot, then taking over an hour to tag, is not a scam if the seller completes without you. i stand behind all of my member's trades, but i'm not going to refund if the dispute is due to negligence on the part of the buyer.
APP is a reliable Guild. Any problems let me know.
Kinds hard when they are on Ares. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Moonlime
link to spreadsheet posted, there's a sheet for Ares and one for Zeus
INSAN2 will stand behind and guarantee the trades of any of it's members. Agreed with whoever posted about dilatory ls tags. If you don't tag within an hour on a FF or RTF ls then it's your fault. If you believe that you've been scammed by a member of INSAN2 Contact is Dirkjon, we'll make it right.
ISLES on Ares will stand behind any Guildie.. If there is a problem Please contact me Deano1978 and Ill handle it personaly
lol so no one is to be trusted on Zeus. Priceless
i guess no one cares enough to participate. oh well.
Maybe it is the ideological perspective of presumed innocence.
Until something happens, there's nothing to list.
A short video that explains why bad traders can't be listed. (if it works)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrHxD_o1VB8
yeah, im surprised this thread is still up, if they got rid of Bad Traders thread, this one is sure to go. This thread is much less helpful compared to the old Bad Traders thread, there are alot more trustworthy players playing compared to scammers. Once a scam occurs, most of the time that player is confronted in general chat (even though it isnt permitted, it does happen), so now that player must go into hiding, or change their name etc.. I doubt many people will actually use and read this whole list before trading (especially if/when the list lengthens). More so seems to be a way of going around the CoC (whichever rule helped rid of Bad Traders list) than to actually be a useful guide.
He's just affraid he will be on it^^^^^^^^
afraid to be on what? Trusted Traders list?
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Originally Posted by Forrell
Before one person was guilty. Now they're all guilty. lol
Really? Isn't a member of your guild notorious for putting up ridiculous trades?Quote:
Originally Posted by Deano1978
and the finger pointing begins.....
ask not for whon the finger points...it points for thee
Aaand this is why no one from Zeus has said 'hey, my guild...' because drama will ensue -- this being the internet and all.Quote:
Originally Posted by ROKSettler
wait.... so this is the interwebz?? man do i owe Al Gore any fees?Quote:
Originally Posted by theWhiteCane
There is a difference between bad trades, bad traders, and scammers. A bad trade might be a noble for 500 granite. That does not make the player who posted it a bad trader though. That player would probably be able to be trusted to hold a lot of coin, and still give it back. Eventually though bad trades can morph into scams, even if the person wont technically themselves be a scammer (such as the guild coin offers for imp stores). Such lists need to be only people that cannot be trusted to do their fair share of a stated bargain (selling CLT LS - 12k is an example, if the LS is not provided or coin not sent).
guys, i started this post as a positive thing. if you cant say something positive, then just dont post please.
the goal is to identify individuals and guilds everyone can feel safe doing the 1 fish trades with, loot spots and gem sellers
if u dont like a TO trade, just dont accept it. duh.
You guys can trust me with all your money ;)
rule of thumb should be: you can usually trust one of the older guilds to cover most things one of it's member does. if you never seen that player trading or selling a LS before, pay AFTER you get FR and invite. and even if they have been playing for a while most of the ones with a lot of coin/resources usually gouge
He gets all his money flying all over the world telling us to stop flying all over the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troll-Phu
I trust my trades for the most part.
I trust every player here that I know.