Endless copper mine economy

As i keep accumulating gems from my pits (started with 1 pit a while back, on my last available pit to be purchased soon) i started thinking where to spend my cash. I thought maybe a an endless copper mine?

Here's the simple calculation: if i just sold my gems (at 20gc per gem as is effortlessly doable - take special gold mine for example) i would be able to buy 10,000,000 of copper ore. To manufacture 10m of ore (with - to make it easy and generous - the following assumptions: fast lvl5 mine with 100 sec cycle, buffed for free for 50% of the total time) it takes OVER 4 YEARS.

you can sell gems? ^^

indirectly of course

Before building endless copper mine, be sure and have your geo find one that produces ore twice as fast as normal. Then your endless mine will really spit out the ore.

what was the value u used for copper ore?

and your point is? a lot of purchases/upgrades are not practical. compare this to a lvl 5 imp silo.

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Originally Posted by Snacknado

what was the value u used for copper ore?

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10k - 400gc

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Originally Posted by Draconus2004

and your point is? a lot of purchases/upgrades are not practical. compare this to a lvl 5 imp silo.

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my point is that a working, coherent economy would make this a better game, too bad it's in shambles....

well 3 ECMs at lvl 5 on a fast depo bring in 5900 ore every 12 hours unbuffed. just the convienience of not rebuilding 6 mines twice a day is worth it imo. if you have the gems. cause you could always put up 1 FM, 3 schools, and fill the rest of insland with store houses and do LSs til you drop

well, what i'm saying is, alternative to having ECM is just buying the end product, whatever it is, ore, swords, tools..whatever... so with nearly zero effort on your side (placing trades) it will take 4+ years for the ECM to pay for itself. in real world that wouldn't be bad at all..in settlers world it's an eternity

I always thought the price was high, but until recently the mine had a return rate of a little over a year - much better than many granite upgrades.

I always thought it was overpriced but nonetheless planned to get one eventually to avoid the bottleneck. Without a reduction in cost, it will only continue to get worse. Gem building prices have about doubled even just since Easter, though not nearly this bad yet on Ares.

If you don't like gem prices - buy some more.

Only thing I've bought with gems so far (other than a gem pit) is a jolly geologist, but I'm certainly happy that there are those who see the value in trading their gem items for coins. I've got coins burning a hole in my star anyway, so I'm no longer overwhelmed with the economy going wonky. However, in terms of actually buying things with gems such as the super pricey copper mines, the math suggests that convenience is quickly outpacing value as the primary motivation.

I would recomend not buying an unlimited items with gems, such as jolly geos, silos, watermills, ISHs, etc... save your gems for limited items like- Gem Pits, Generals, Scouts, Floaters etc..

Im thinking about buying one of these worth 20k gems?

I'm not planning on touching the others, but the jolly geologist has been exceptionally helpful. Well worth the 300 gems and then some.

I will be getting an endless copper mine regardless, but I am going to have a few gem pits first. Then I'll use the earnings from them to pay for the copper mine.

Why would u waste precious gems on an item that you could buy with gc (jolly geologist) ?

How can I get a jolly geologist with gold? I will probably get a second one and would rather do that instead. Unless you mean the regular ones, but when I am searching the morning before work, I don't have the extra 2.5 minutes (times however many) to waste.

they are giftable

Good to know.

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Originally Posted by Gwalben

...I am going to have a few gem pits first. Then I'll use the earnings from them to pay for the copper mine.

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Great planning ahead, Gwalben. :)

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Originally Posted by Gwalben

I'm not planning on touching the others, but the jolly geologist has been exceptionally helpful. Well worth the 300 gems and then some.

I will be getting an endless copper mine regardless, but I am going to have a few gem pits first. Then I'll use the earnings from them to pay for the copper mine.

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That what I did. I have all gem pits on my island atm. After I got enough gems, I did buy one endless copper mine and that's all I need. I still need to build my copper mines but that's okay.

Having ECM is a luxury. It means less time spent on searching and building the copper mines. If you can afford it - why not? I love mine. You build one upgrade it and that's it no need of your attention ever (unless you buff it like I do). I opt for little mangmt as possible. Again, its a luxury, pricey but comfy.

Everyone runs things a little different. I have on ECM placed on a deposit that produces every 1.5 minutes, at lvl 5 and buffed 3x, I get all the copper ore I need. So I no longer have to keep searching and rebuilding copper mines. I only search for marble and iron deposits. My coal is inactive along with my 5 other copper deposits.

good stuff, Wimpy!

No worry, Once new changes (re-balance combat) make it to life, you will need a crap load of iron ore to make all those IS and SS needed to do adventures. Endless Iron mine is coming to gem shop within 30 days of the new changes going life :) Bet you a gem pit for that:P

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Originally Posted by Plumz

No worry, Once new changes (re-balance combat) make it to life, you will need a crap load of iron ore to make all those IS and SS needed to do adventures. Endless Iron mine is coming to gem shop within 30 days of the new changes going life :) Bet you a gem pit for that:P

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I will not need any iron because when this is implemented I will be gone.

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Originally Posted by Wimpy

I will not need any iron because when this is implemented I will be gone.

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ditto.

lol and so will be many others :)