Adv server problems with goofy general travel

Multiple adventures, including on lootspots, showing generals that get intercepted, or not, randomly when they should be nowhere close to an interception. When sending attacks, leaving and returning, the generals are traveling AND attacking, and have very odd paths after a successful battle. It is getting quite frustrating to actually run adventures with the lag and odd behaviors being seen.


I just had a general 'start' an attack 3 times, after he was already showing as fighting a battle, in Nords.

Running an IoTP, and just watched my MMA rebuild his garrison three times at a new site.

Hello? Is anyone there? This is a bug report!

Nords today, moved 3 generals. They all finished rebuilding, then all started over at 0%.

Okay, this is ridiculous. One mma with the confirmed troop mix, somehow fought 3 times and lost where it should have been only 32r loss.


The troop mix didn't take for some idiotic reason. The adventure servers have a problem. Is this going to be responded to and acted upon or not?

I just watched a general start his attack twice. Then his attack finished, and he was on his horse riding away. Then the camp was back and finishing, then riding away a second time.

I am having some of these problems as well. Most of my battles have been fine, but I would not bet on things working correctly every time. Generals randomly wandering around, generals having their troops reset, generals not attacking at all after starting their attack, generals being shown as intercepted that aren't really being intercepted. Some of these are an annoyance, while some could result in a large unexpected troop loss. The whole combat system is buggy now.

i watched my ls player's gen hit the target SEVEN times with 1r before it gave up and lost..... ! -- i see my vet attack - and i retreated and he did...

You will have towait for maintenance to, hopefully, fix that. As of now it's pretty much only aggrevating to do adventures, blocking or not.

I was expecting a hotfix the same day or the day after the update...but wow regardless.

I did an adventure yesterday. I had to tell a general twice to relocate. He relocated on the first time then showed back up on the original spot. On a unrelated side note I left the pantry open and while I was typing this my cat found the kitty treats bag and is trying to chew it open.

Running a Dark Brotherhood today and it went largely as expected, but when waving down the Dervishes on the last tower things started getting a little goofy. Armies re-attacking 3 or 4x in a row long after their troops were dead, some waves seemingly disappearing or not having the expected results on the tower, whether it was related to the odd phantom armies or just a change I didn't spot I'm not sure. Took just over 1300 calvary to wave down what use to to take 1000-1050.

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Originally Posted by Slapdonius

Multiple adventures, including on lootspots, showing generals that get intercepted, or not, randomly when they should be nowhere close to an interception. When sending attacks, leaving and returning, the generals are traveling AND attacking, and have very odd paths after a successful battle. It is getting quite frustrating to actually run adventures with the lag and odd behaviors being seen.


I just had a general 'start' an attack 3 times, after he was already showing as fighting a battle, in Nords.

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Hello Slapdonius,

Thank you for reporting this bug.
We have received similar reports from other instances and we are working on a fix.

Please be patient, I will do my best to keep you updated.

Cordially,
BB_Endesmor

BB_Endesmor, Just a follow up on this thread since it has been several days. I want to be sure you know there is still an issue.

Today in two different battles, two different adventures, the same thing happened.
Basically, I open the general's window, set the troops for the battle, and send him to attack (on the second instance, I actually watched him leave on his horse, on the way to battle), then a few moments later I go back to check on him and find that he is back at his camp, the troops are no longer set, and the battle he was sent on never happened.

The first time it happened today, I had sent two other generals behind him, to attack bandit camps further away. The first general "reset" and did not do his battle, leaving the second two generals to be intercepted, thus losing a great deal of cannoneers.

I know you are already aware and working on these types of issues, can you give us an update?

I would like to add on to the list. Numerous players in our guild are reporting similar problems. It is almost impossible to do adventures right now.
BB, could we have an update please? It has been almost 2 weeks.

+1

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Originally Posted by Slapdonius

Okay, this is ridiculous. One mma with the confirmed troop mix, somehow fought 3 times and lost where it should have been only 32r loss.


The troop mix didn't take for some idiotic reason. The adventure servers have a problem. Is this going to be responded to and acted upon or not?

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lost 122 e 133 k because of this, 2 times on rb

Attacking with 2 or more generals makes the glitch worse. It seemed like the hover icon for the troop count was hanging up. The general walked back and forth 3 times, each time the server connection would drop, the general changed direction.
I think playability could be improved by disabling the troop hover icon.

nice photo Bosola

+1 - ran db yesterday -- final attack w/ vet was repeated 4 times ...

I submitted the exact same problem to Support, and this was their response:

Thank you for contacting Support regarding an intercepted General and wrong attack order.

Even though on your screen it shows the general making It to the targeted camp on the server your general had already been intercepted. This is caused by lag, because support is not able to control the latency at which a players game is able to send and receive information from the host servers, blocking is not supported.

Many player made guides will use this tactic but player are using a blocking move at their own risk. Support does not recommend using this tactic as it can be misleading and often times uncontrollable. I strongly recommend attacking the camps in the order presented to you versus attempting any form of block.
Sincerely,

Although blocking may be unsupported, the overall adventure problems are not caused by an unsupported technique but rather PVP bugginess. I've been doing pretty good on the whole, though, despite the lag/generals doing weird things.

Blocks are not supported blah blah blah.... ok, fine. I'll refrain from complaining about failed blocks. These glitches are making some adventures unplayable. Dark Brotherhood seems to be the worst. Some of the waves at the witch tower that should be taking 10 seconds (one round) are taking 4 minutes. Sending multiple waves results in generals jumping ahead of previous generals.
The problem seems worse if I leave the adventure and return, or if I am running the adventure with another person.

i ran an se last week... i had several camps that were already UNDER attack get attacked again by another passing gen... other times the gen would attack several times. in the end i lost 400 e due to this crap and another 50 x.

I've been having the same problems (gens attacking multiple times, troops being reset, gens intercepted when they shouldn't be, etc), but one thing I have really noticed is that the incidences of these increase drastically when I invite another person, and even more so with two extra people. The Fairy Tale ventures are ridiculous because you have three people 'active' on it!! (and that's fighting straight thru; not using blocks at all)

Hi everyone,

As far as I know, the issue with the generals is only graphical.
It should not have any impact on the battles.

BB_Endesmor

I agree that PvP is the cause of all these problems. What was ironic about Support's response is that they "do not support blocking", yet expect it in PvP play.

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Originally Posted by BB_Endesmor

Hi everyone,

As far as I know, the issue with the generals is only graphical.
It should not have any impact on the battles.

BB_Endesmor

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Really! Then why are we losing expensive troops due to failed Wave1/Wave2 attacks (non-blocking)? Why is the Wave 2 gen jumping ahead of the Wave 1 gen?

Bohica

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Originally Posted by BB_Endesmor

Hi everyone,

As far as I know, the issue with the generals is only graphical.
It should not have any impact on the battles.

BB_Endesmor

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if this is the case, then why did my sac wave general go second even though it said "attacking" 5 times before i sent out my actual general to kill the camp? this shouldn't have an impact on the battle but the fact is that it is. it shouldn't but it is. any clue of when they are going to address this issue?

Thanks for the additional information. I will pass this along to the developers.

@Zugzug: No ETA yet.

BB_Endesmor

BB,

The issues described in this thread are definitely NOT only graphical. There are serious issues with the combat engine after the PvP feature was introduced.
1) Troup loads are randomly reset after confirming multiple times that loads are correct
2) Generals are getting intercepted by camps that are either already under attack or not in the intercept path
3) Generals are attacking multiple times
4) Generals are randomly returning to the camp they attacked last, even if it is no longer there
5) Generals are randomly disappearing and reappearing during attack movement
6) Garrison transfers are restarting or completely failing

All of these effects are occurring with NO blocking. Combat is almost impossible, especially on multi-player adventures.

Bottom line: This is a new bug. The game did not exhibit this behavior before PvP introduction.

I have had to stop doing most adventures due to these problems. I don't want to throw troops away on your bug,

These problems have been happening since the pvp was introduced. It's a little disconcerting that not only have they not attempted to fix it but that they apparently don't think there's a problem.

Graphics or not, my guildie's gen attacked the same camp 12 times, not to mention it's hard to execute a block when you get faulty intercept messages. Hope this gets fixed very soon. Thanks BB!

2 repeated (same gen/same attack) attacks on SLT adventure camp, eventually lost 111M 138 xbows should have been a cake walk...definitely something wrong.

most defiantly NOT graphical only, I already lost a great deal of cannoneers twice (DB, both times same result) where my friends gen's were 'attacking' and i would wait till I was sure they were in the camp(DUH, they were 'attacking') then send mine. Mine reaches camp prob a good 3-4 minutes AFTER his was 'attacking' and somehow MINE Hit first.

Same thing AGAIN when I decided to sit back and wait. Friend one launched before friend 2 had even landed on the map, friend 1's general was 'attacking' 10-15 times in the 'news' tab before friend 2 even SENT his gen. Eventually friend 2's gen hit the tower and HIS gen made the first hit. (Although it cycled between the 2 friends generals 'attacking' in the news tab) -Could tell which gen was which since 1 was MMA and other was vet.

It is NOT graphical. It is a serious issue. And it DOES cost unnecessary losses. I really, really, do not want to read another response from support about how 'they cannot prove/duplicate' the error, since its in the game logs.


(BTW as of writing this post and this edit, the 2 gens are STILL cycling thier attacks, this is after ALL 3 of us have refreshed and re-loaded the adv map. This is a server side issue, NOT client side. You buggerd the code quite good this time mates, time to stop slappin band-aids on stuff and actually put it in a body-cast)

I agree had the same problems on several different adventures myself and lost cannons from the problem. Introducing PVP with all the bugs was the wrong thing to do just to meet some type of deadline.

I expected a roll back or some form of compensation for all loss that these bugs and error are costing us (players). My entire army just got wiped out (xbows, es, soldiers and cavs) couple mins ago due to lag and jumping gens. I watched as i send all my gens in the correct order of attacks and hold and below, the last two gens springs forward of the first two gens despite their marching distance was much longer and they were sent last. I saw the first two gens walking out of their garrisons before i sent the other two. My chat window keeps crashing, i can't see the latest chat in any tabs and I have to refresh from time to time. Not to mention i don't see any of my guildies online even though they are on and neither can they see me. Whisper is not delivering. This is getting unacceptable. The game takes forever to build up anything yet just seconds to lose all the days/weeks long of efforts.

Is BB running a business or a scam? No business ignores customers feedback and gives out generic script for week after week like BB is doing.

I thought it was just me.. lol.. well.. I'm running with no blocks because of this and it's still insane! my gens can teleport to get intercepted and to go the wrong direction. I mean this guy can moonwalk! ... but.. yeah.. same issues, garrisons that never build, gens that never attack, buildings that fall only to rebuild itself and sends my gen instantly back...
If I want zero fails.. I have to send one gen, let him, attack and win, and then return to garrison before sending the next gen... and then I still bite my tail waiting for some kinda time warp to screw me :(

But at least I can stop taking it out on my computer now :P

I am ready to give up on adventures soon, I keep losing elites and cannons due to weird interceptions and generals that vanish or randomly appear in a different spot. Fix it or retire the game, seriously. Can't even run a RB without problems, not even going to talk about FT adventures. Does BB want us to run those or not?

Im sure this is on purpose, to try to get rid of blocks