Last night I needed 4 eggs to finish the quest chain. 1 regular explorer and 3 lucky explorers were out searching to return around midnight.
I had to buy those eggs from the TO.
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Last night I needed 4 eggs to finish the quest chain. 1 regular explorer and 3 lucky explorers were out searching to return around midnight.
I had to buy those eggs from the TO.
My earlier returning guys returned eggs today, but my later returning guys didn't.
I managed to get 2170/3200 :(
I had them out searching the whole time and they sucked at bringing back eggs. Way to go BB for cutting back the eggs to make it fair!
Who again was that to be fair to, may I ask?
well i'm sure if you had more trained explorers you would have finished the 3200 eggs quest in 2 weeks like most players that have that many did. so what did we learn from this event and all the one before, spend some money, get all the specialists, and you'll have no problems. BB put out that all players wouldn't reach those top tiers on the egg house. not trying to be hard on new players but also make it fair to long term players, that have been here years, and put in time and in some cases MONEY. how fair would it have been if one of the event alts could have made the quest easily, not fair at all, so yes this is a free to play game, and you can do a whole lot not paying a dime, but don't whine cause players that have supported the game and bought gems have more than you. that's the way life is "little johnny everyone gets the same and wins all the time" isn't true. get over it, buy gems, and maybe next event "little johnny" can have some toys too!!!!
I did not even have 21 explorers, I have 15, but I made the 3200 a week before the event stopped. I did notice the egg drop too, but the achievement was still doable. I also think that there needs to be a challenge and if you are a new player you can't expect to get all achievements done and all eggs for all goodies. I had a real frantic mad dash the last day to get achievement points from the expedition loot.
This is the curious element of it all to me - there are folks with more explorers than you that say they didn't hit the achievement. You hit it in two weeks with 15 explorers, I couldn't hit it in 3 weeks with 11. At your average return rate (3200 eggs in two weeks / 15 explorers / 2 weeks = 106/eggs per explorer per week), you would ALSO have hit the achievement in 3 weeks with only 11 explorers (106 eggs/week * 3 weeks * 11 explorers) = 3,498 (granted, the 4 explorers we "dropped" were fast ones and that would probably have tweaked your average down some to drop them, but even if we said 106 eggs/week * 3 weeks * 10 explorers, you would get 3,180 eggs). Since I was only able to hit 2,950, there's clearly a difference between your account and mine that is of some interest (and all my explorers are fully booked or almost fully booked, so that isn't the difference).Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemis69
The "randomness" of this all is questionable, and it isn't just "new players" that were impacted.
This event was definitely more of a challenge than some previous ones, but buying more explorers isn't really a "challenge", and doesn't necessarily appear to be the full answer if RNG seeds differ from player to player. People report their stats, and some people clearly do better more consistently than others, so while the mid-event "nerfing" calculations might have worked "as intended" to slow down those with good seeds (such as yourself), they had a far more negative effect on those with bad seeds. If we don't all start from the same baseline, we are obviously not going to be able to compare our experiences fairly.
Buying more explorers isn't exactly the challenge. The challenge is really for those who play the game without buying gems or spending too much gem. Such as leveling up. Do all quests they can that gives them gem rewards. Getting star coins and buying gems with star coins.. The challenge is in getting the explorers from past events with event resources. Basically the challenge is how many explorers can you get without spending real money.
BUT- all the above challenge can't be done during the event in a timely manner to complete the event achievements. Thus this favors the veteran players more.
Which is fine, since it Is the reward for those have been playing or a while. A lot of people earned some explorers without spending gems over the years.
Now- the event is time based and that prompts people to spend gems to 'speed up the process'. Isn't all free 2 play based browser games designed with this intent? Spend gems to speed up your tasks because you don't want to wait or have time for?
The problem with the RNG nature of this game is that its not consistent. And its RNG. it has no fail safe for people with bad luck. And that is a design flaw. Those who have good luck should finish early in the event. Those with bad luck SHOULD finish near the end of the event (if they keep trying). In this case, there is no fail safe for the people with bad luck.
The nerf to the drop rate certainly didn't help. I'd be pissed if I spent all my gems to buy explorers and they didn't return anything. (Remember though, it's possible to spend gems to make the explorers go faster too! You can complete your exploring faster by spending gem to half their time.) AND it's possible to spend gems to complete a subquest to by-pass the search for eggs quest. Or to by-pass the Gather eggs quest. Any of the quest can be completed by spending the gems. You can pay to win! The option is there.
You just can't pay for good luck. The designers need to stop designing things that heavily rely on luck. (specifically the 'earn X" eggs from exploration and adventures achievement)
Well, you can't necessarily pay to win - you can pay more for the CHANCE to win IF you have good luck/a good RNG seed. More explorers/halving the time/etc. doesn't guarantee results, just raises the chances somewhat. I considered buying more explorers as I am sitting on a decent pile of gems currently, but ... I didn't need to based on the first week's results, and wasn't going to based on the second week's horrible returns and the fact that ANY nerf during an event implies more could be coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by RonEmpire
Maybe they should offer that for gems?Quote:
Originally Posted by RonEmpire
The only thing you can pay to win is completing the quests.
The only thing you CAN NOT pay to win is the achievement that depends on luck.
I have 15 explorers and didn't get any eggs back today and all of them were out on very long treasure hunts.