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To get FROZEN manor you have 4,35% chance
To get The Invasion of the Nords you have 0,5% chance
so....
if 5000 players do Nord's there is chance 1 of them will progress and get the frozen manor. But the laws of probability are such that you could run Nord's for the 5000000000000000 times and still never get a frozen manor.
Have fun :)
Quotes from test server forums, courtesy of BB.
Very true.. Not everyone realizes the latter part about an individual may never (in their life time) get a FM, by playing Nords to get Nords 2, to get a FM.
But you can drastically improve your chances by directly purchasing Nords 2 from Gem shop...
Yes, for a tidy sum of 1495 gems, you too can have a whopping chance of (BB claims 4.00% - I think less) getting the top prize. Not cool; especially since they nerfed the drop rate from a 33.33% chance and did not lower the gem cost even a single gem!? :/Quote:
Originally Posted by alice007
Think basics - If you get gems at normal cost per $99USD one Nords2 is roughly $6.23USD for a 33% chance, is reasonable and I would accept, but for even a 4% drop rate? Please.
And if you are not fortunate enough to get gems at bulk rate and have to purchase using the smallest package that gets you a Nords 2 (1700 gems for $9.99USD), then your cost per Nords 2 is approximately $8.79USD. Again, for a 1/3 chance, might be worth it to players, but not likely at a 4% or less drop rate.
An interesting thought is that with many discussions in these forums, we normally will have different players taking different sides. With the issue of Nords 2 and 'The Great Nerfing of 2014', I have really heard no players defending the nerfing of Nords 2. So, that brings in mind a question to all:
Have you purchased an 'Invasion of the Nords' (Nords 2) adventure since the epic loot was nerfed last Fall (2014)?
i still had one from before the nerf..........it looked so much like a nords, I thought it was one.
Agreed.. and I am not on either side.. I am personally over the hope of getting a single more FM on my island..Quote:
Originally Posted by Raubhautz
I hope to work my way to a few Mag Res instead.. just need to start doing FTs, before BB touches them again...
I wish I could hurry... and had the time to do them day and night.
I was just finally ready to start trying to buy some, but then I realized it wasn't happening. I like the magnificent residence idea as well, though I'm not sure how many will actually fit. I guess I'll be good with 10k population. I don't have a plan to use that population, but it's at least a goal to achieve.
Had the same problem when I went to start doing Bandit Nest. I decided I like the adventure, but the odds of getting the follow-up made it pointless. Have two quests about follow-up adventures that are just going to sit there.
Yes, the MR can work for you if you map it out right. They have an odd shape. I got a couple just to get rid of the few lvl3 Nobles I had left. In the same space I placed the MR, I gained 300 pop, per. Not as good as a FM, but...
Right.. same here.. not looking for stellar pop.. which will give me bragging rights for having most FMs.. and Pop..Quote:
Originally Posted by Raubhautz
But that's ok :) I need the pop to just do FTs.. If and when I reach 10-15k.. I'd be happy
And as for mapping, yes, I've been leaving empty squares with Mag Res in mind..
May have to shuffle a bit later.. will see when I get enough beans..
here is my guess to as why BB did this, FM will forever be the best pop building in the game and they want players to struggle to get the ultimate end game pop building and or pay for them (significantly). not saying i agree with them but i do understand why they would do this.
And they were sleeping when they made Master Architect Boxes (with FMs) available during Christmas of 2013.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snacknado
When they woke up.. they decided not to repeat it for 2014.. but the damage has already been done..
i.e. lots of folks getting the feeling of being poor and left out, because they don't have these insanely expensive FMs in 100s, just like their other lv 50 friend.
yeah, they realized they made a mistake i think (just like with gem packs during halloween a few years back)- and yea, the ppl who didnt take advantage of them then, will forever miss out
my 300 frozen manors feel bad for people who were not around at that time.
Now can you please go back to the idea of the 3 new small islands below the current one so I can place them all
And then what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Artillerist
In theory the end game concept makes sense. I wonder if it really works that way in practice. If I know I can do something once a week for a year and only be successful one time, I'm not going to bother at all rather than trying harder and striving for that ultimate end goal. You'd think there would be some compromise between too much and nearly nothing.
You'd think that people think :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Gwalben
Jokes apart.. I agree.. it doesn't have to be this dire a situation, should one want to get one or two FM in their lifetime playing nords and nords 2.
it's not like it will explode their population.. but will surely make them (players) happy, and feel lucky :D
Well then I could have both expedition troops made and regular troops at the same time. As it is I killed off almost all my regular troops to stockpile Expedition troops so I could try out the levelingQuote:
Originally Posted by alice007
Right.. I had totally forgotten about PvP.. (although no surprise there)Quote:
Originally Posted by Artillerist
im surprised you still have the stamina for all of that Artillerist, i have 39,590/39,590 pop and i havent ran an adventure in about 8 months lol
That's exactly what I'm thinking. I'm going to build up my population. And then stop adventuring.
Different players like different things.. Someone may even decide to buy all FMs from the economy and then have their account deleted by BB..Quote:
Originally Posted by Gwalben
But I would still wonder, if the player was working for BB, being paid to drain all FMs from the economy, to fix their mistake form 2013.
lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gwalben
So, no more of these Frozen Manors? Seems like only the richies have them. And 300? of them. Not cool; but seems to be the way of these freemium games. Firms want $$$, players with $$$ become tyrants and bully their way around. Since I am new to this game, perhaps it is not for me. Thank you for the insight.
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Originally Posted by NoobOne
Rage Quitting already?????/
lol - Troll-Phu! :D
I'm not sure how necessarily difficult it is now, though from what I gather more than it used to be, but the lack of frozen manors isn't a game breaker, more of an annoyance. It's not like I really see the "need" for more population. It's just a new goal to achieve since I've about done all the quests and achievements I care to do. You can get noble residences for pretty cheap and have plenty of population long before you run out of space.
I've found the community to be mostly pretty fair when it comes to trading resources.
As only a small time spender, I've managed to find 3 Frozen Manors. They are all together next to my Easter Basket in the Northern Fancy-Schmancy District. It is exactly 4 buildings big.
Buying Nords 2 for a chance to get FM is not struggle...It is insanity. There is a room for common sense in a game design, when it comes to FM drops, common sense has left the building (and heads) of the design team. Period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snacknado
Now, introducing "pvp" requiring extra population for 2nd tier of troops, raising looses on FT adventures at the same time - common sense would dictate helping players somehow to raise their housing limits. FM is the best housing unit in game. With all respect to Mag Residence - why did you guys design it so large and kinda bulky (placement)? And if you did design it with the expansion islands in mind in future (more room to place them) then bring this feature to life already...
Seems every cool thing BB does about the game is countered by one or more dumb ones that just don't make sense.