Feedback - Level 75 Cap Raise & XXL Pack

So far on test have done 23 prolonged searches. Each search returns 2 items. Looks pretty grim so far.

100 Exotic Wood 7 times 15.22%

150 Gold Bars 10 times 21.74%

100 Gold Coins 1 time 2.17%

60 Granite 5 times 10.87%

30 Grout 3 times 6.52%

40 Mahogany 5 times 10.87%

30 Platinum 4 times 8.70%

30 Salt Petre 5 times 10.87%

30 Titanium Bars 6 times 13.04%

Why are exotic wood, gold bars, and gold coins even in here? It takes 1-1/2 days for this search with a savage scout. We're supposed to be getting new resources from them, not something we can either get from any adventure or produce ourselves. Sorry, but this search is bad news. I understand we have to take some bad with the good, but these items and ratios seriously need adjusting.

Edited 8/31. Here are the results of 48 prolonged searches. This would take 16 days with 3 lucky explorers or 24 days with 3 savage scouts.

100 Exotic Wood 20 times 20.83%

150 Gold Bars 13 times 13.54%

100 Gold Coins 1 time 1.04%

60 Granite 14 times 14.58%

30 Grout 8 times 8.33%

40 Mahogany 14 times 14.58%

30 Platinum 12 times 12.50%

30 Salt Petre 7 times 7.29%

30 Titanium Bars 7 times 7.29%

Somewhat better results for Mahogany & Platinum. Grout return is frustrating. If the return rate is going to be this low, then the amount found should be higher. Aside from fishermen & storehouses, buildings require a minimum of 300 grout to upgrade. Doing 2 pine cutters and 3 foresters is 250 grout. After 48 searches (taking 16 to 24 days using a reasonable amount of explorers) have gotten 240. As it stands it's borderline sadistic to make all buildings upgradeable to 6 and then set up a horrifically long search with results like these.

Still getting way too much exotic wood, which shouldn't even be in this search.

Edited 9/2. Here are the results of 63 prolonged searches. This would take 21 days with 3 lucky explorers or 31.5 days with 3 savage scouts.

100 Exotic Wood 24 times 19.05%

150 Gold Bars 17 times 13.49%

100 Gold Coins 2 times 1.59%

60 Granite 24 times 19.05%

30 Grout 9 times 7.14%

40 Mahogany 16 times 12.70%

30 Platinum 16 times 12.70%

30 Salt Petre 8 times 6.35%

30 Titanium Bars 10 times 7.94%

The results speak for themselves. Buy all the grout you can at every event cause these searches aren't going to get any of your buildings upgraded. Prolonged searches are a waste of time and explorers.

Come back with "this search is bad" when they adjust rarity search lol

New levels on buildings & new quests sound great. But when you can't get i.e. enough iron to carry the demand of weapons, etc., it is futile to even try. Resource capacities of mines are ridiculously low. So low that buffing them would & is a total waste. Even if you decide to try to buy iron mine buildings in the shop, you lose the entire building if it gets drained completely. So you are constantly in a battle to try to get enough resources unless you want to buy your way to them. And you can't exactly complete quests & adventure, or do any PvP, if you can't make the items needed for them. When Daily Quests have adventures that need completed, I just hit the X to remove them because 1, they are adventures that I have already done & won't waste the troops or resources on again, & 2, they can't be completed do to not having resources to do them with. So for a lot of players, their game will get to a level that they can't advance from & eventually they will get bored & quit. In most online games, there is always a way for a player with limited income or who doesn't have the money to spend on online games, to advance, however slow, to higher levels to at least keep up with some others. Not in this game. Granite is so rare that even doing treasure searches all year, you will still only come up with enough to do a few upgrades. There should also be a way to get & complete more adventures like "The Grain Conflict", "Twin Bridges", etc. that would allow a person to get XP points so they can raise up levels. Newer players get tired of completing Gunpowder, Horseback, Sleepy Reef, etc. to try to get XP points & then have to struggle to get more troops & weapons to try to get others done, especially when the resources just aren't there to make them or upgrade buildings to get faster completion. It's a never ending struggle to get nowhere & that will kill this game eventually. I know it's a constant fight for Ubisoft to keep players interested so they will stay & spend money but with the in game experience being what it is, they will lose people even faster. I myself won't usually speak in World Chat nor join a Guild because of Trolls that ruin the game. But then you have Daily Quests that involve either doing something to a friends village or having friends do something for you. Why not have some kind of quest for the Guilds to do like recruiting new members. IN THE ENTIRE TIME I HAVE BEEN PLAYING THIS GAME, NOT ONCE HAS AN INVITATION TO JOIN A GUILD "EVER" BEEN SENT TO ME OR OFFERED. So why would a person just start to throw out applications to one that either has no room or is just filled with a group of trolls, they won't. Why would they "want" to speak in World Chat or take part in a "Trivia Challenge", they won't. Not a very good way to get people to feel wanted or an actual part of the game. Would they be able to complete Quests or adventures involving more than themselves, NO. So essentially all of these things that involve multiple players are off limits to these people & as like most, if not all, of them, they just use the "X" to eliminate them from showing in their Quest Book. Sorry this is so long but had to point these things out.

uhm........ok

Hang in there Grumbledorf. I highly suggest joining a nice guild that can help you out. If you were on Ares I'd invite you to mine. Not that you should spam trade chat or anything, but it might be worth mentioning in there that you are looking for a home and then switch to global or whisper to chat. A lot of people don't look in global chat very often. There's also some guild ads on this forum for Zeus server with contacts that you could whisper, I'm sure they'll be happy to help.

it would be nice if we could trade some resources for gems, even if it was somewhat limited like it's currently for the star coins...

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Originally Posted by Grumbledorf

[...] IN THE ENTIRE TIME I HAVE BEEN PLAYING THIS GAME, NOT ONCE HAS AN INVITATION TO JOIN A GUILD "EVER" BEEN SENT TO ME OR OFFERED. [...]

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Hi! We have plenty of guilds looking in Zeus. Some might be shy at the moment as a huge influx of players are arriving. Along with previously mentioned techniques (asking in global and/or help tabs), there is a forum thread dedicated to active guilds on Zeus (as well as one for Ares - for those on that server):

TSO Forum - Zeus Guilds

I see no less than 2 active guilds who are seeking new members, check them and and see if it might be a fit.

Good luck to you.

unable to combine old and new units. also, anytime you go between the two pages, your general drops all his units.

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Originally Posted by JScofi

unable to combine old and new units. also, anytime you go between the two pages, your general drops all his units.

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That is the intention here. Your generals can lead either old or new troops into combat, but not together. The dropping of units when switching is intentional to prevent this from happening.

Hello,

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Originally Posted by Perwyn

Taken from the Dev Diary : "From now on each week a part of the XXL pack will be introduced."

Does this mean the new features are going to be implemented in stages each week? Or does it mean we'll get a dev dairy each week detailing some aspect of the expansion pack?

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We meant that each week, we will publish more information in a Dev's Diary.

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Originally Posted by Koshko

With it launching when it's planned to, will we be having a Halloween event this year?

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Yes, you will have the opportunity to play the Halloween event.

BB_Endesmor

I think I'm going to need Halloween for this new content. I normally just ignore the village schools, but I suspect my population will need a boost.

I honestly hope there's nothing new in the next few events, because I'm going to have to spend every event resource I get on grout.

what about Fairytale Castle? lvl 6 upgrade available for this building also? if we can, then what are material costs and what will be the new speed to convert beans into bean stalks?

Grout will be my only focus for the Halloween event

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what about Fairytale Castle? lvl 6 upgrade available for this building also? if we can, then what are material costs and what will be the new speed to convert beans into bean stalks?

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Ah, not gonna be too bad for this massive sleeper.
20'000 Titan Bars.
10'000 Grout.

Not sure why you assume it's speed will change though....upgrade has never decreased production time, that stays happily the same.

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Originally Posted by Ceruhe

Ah, not gonna be too bad for this massive sleeper.
20'000 Titan Bars.
10'000 Grout.

Not sure why you assume it's speed will change though....upgrade has never decreased production time, that stays happily the same.

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thanks Ceruhe, production time is mistake, conversion rate I mean, can not be same as before 25 beans into 5 stalks... what is the new rate after upgrade?

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Originally Posted by Library

thanks Ceruhe, production time is mistake, conversion rate I mean, can not be same as before 25 beans into 5 stalks... what is the new rate after upgrade?

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Guessing here, but based upon previous level rates and their production ratios: 30 Beans to 6 Stalks (30:6) in one production cycle. UG does not usually increase time, but rather efficiency to perform the task within that cycle.

in reference to star coins being collected your statement "will end in a huge amount of Star Coins in the economic system." their are people how have a lot all ready, mainly because their is little use for them we cant trade them we cant sell them, theirs a limit of what we can buy and how often, so why would you change how much we get their really only good for 100 gems and that's once a week, will their be some more things we can buy, ex if 100 gems cost 6x100 coins then give us the ability to buy buildings at the same conversion, or buffs or anything that really make level 75 fun because 50 is kinda boring when it come to the coins

How about you add a new building like a military base that lets me put all 27 something of my generals in one spot, instead of taking up 27 places on my island.....?
That would be a most welcome addition.

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Originally Posted by Library

what about Fairytale Castle? lvl 6 upgrade available for this building also? if we can, then what are material costs and what will be the new speed to convert beans into bean stalks?

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lvl 6? the only reason that we went to lvl 5 is we were extorted to do so. if the thing had made stalks @ lvl 1 it would stay in star til I needed stalks. seeing that it's the most expensive deco most players have

Have to wait and see if there is more use for stalks with the expansion... if so, then perhaps the ft Castle will serve more than just a centerpiece. It does appear there is some demand for more stalks...

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Originally Posted by BubbaClaudius

How about you add a new building like a military base that lets me put all 27 something of my generals in one spot, instead of taking up 27 places on my island.....?
That would be a most welcome addition.

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That plus some way to combine items in Star have got to be the two most needed improvements.

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Originally Posted by Raubhautz

Have to wait and see if there is more use for stalks with the expansion... if so, then perhaps the ft Castle will serve more than just a centerpiece. It does appear there is some demand for more stalks...

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You may want to check here in regards to one of the new uses for beanstalks in the expansion.

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Originally Posted by mod_Magenta

You may want to check here in regards to one of the new uses for beanstalks in the expansion.

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BTW mod_Magenta Excellent presentation of the island expansion. Thank you.

"From now on each week a part of the XXL pack will be introduced." Is there part 2? Seems like you guys are slacking!

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Originally Posted by RonEmpire

"From now on each week a part of the XXL pack will be introduced." Is there part 2? Seems like you guys are slacking!

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We need more time to update the current version, we will most likely publish it on Friday.

Thank you for your understanding.
BB_Endesmor

I just figured you were all too busy having BBQs.

Sure would be nice if we could harvest the trees on the expansion islands like we can on our main island.

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Originally Posted by SweaterPuppies

Sure would be nice if we could harvest the trees on the expansion islands like we can on our main island.

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You can cut down Exotic Trees.

It would be nice to see the camps that intercept us when attacking the leader camp in the first section of the archipelago. There are two camps that intercept your general. Since we can't see what troops are in the camps because of the cloud cover, we don't know what to send. It's like throwing rocks against a brick wall.

there's more than just two hidden camps.. if you send a reg gen with 1 r you can know what's there by the battle report... and the combat preview does tell you that you will be intercepted.. so it's not too bad.. the retreat after the hidden camp falls can be tricky... I wasn't fast enough on one of them.. and I'm not sure that i'll ever be.. :\

all in all I liked it.. the Marksman troop says in the description Attacks first... but under initiative it says normal.. I tried it and it's normal..

but that's the only little thing I seen was.. off.. Overall it should be interesting.. got plenty of new ideas churn'n in my head and can't wait for it to go live! :)

How. Retarded.
We have to buy a sector deed with gems or stalks AND build an island storehouse?!?
How. Retarded.

We already shorten cannoneers to K...since the new ones are called Beseigers, and we shouldn't really shorten that to BS, ;P, how about BK? :)

Yeah those 2 camps are obnoxious. Here's what's in them on the test server, and what I used to clear them:

Lower right camp (200 sword wielders)

MMA 220 LB
MMA 220 LB
MMA 220 LB
MG 100M, 170K

Upper right camp (100 sword wielder, 100 dune marksmen)

MMA 220 LB
MMA 220 LB
MMA 150 LB
MG 170M, 100K

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Originally Posted by Raubhautz

Okay, I like most of what I see here in the design intentions. I have one issue (worth addressing at this point); and it has to do with the issue of Star Coins.

• Having very high EXP adventures/quests can cause problems with flooding Star Coins in the market.
• Star Coins CANNOT be traded among players. As such, greatly diminishes the threat of 'Flooding the Market'.
• Players currently can Gift Epic items (including Star Coin items) to other players, regardless of the recipient player's level (Even though they might not be able to use said items).
• Some players will be slow to move from playing current adventures to the new Ali-Baba adventures.

Some ideas that would address the concerns of keeping the current system of Star Coins the same (100:1; EXP:SC) are as follows:

1. Create items and buffs that are only for use in Ali-Baba/new scenarios. Price these accordingly (current ROA is 120 SC; make the Ali-Baba equivalent of ROA 1200 or even more per buff); do the same with the catapults and Assassin.
2. Allow the new (and much more expensive) buffs to be used on regular adventures. Prevent the usage of the current buffs from working on the new content.
3. Continue to prevent trading of Star Coins. Keep it so the only player who 'earns' them can use them.
4. Continue to permit Gifting of Epic (Star Coin) Items, but restrict who can receive them, based upon their level. e.g. Cannot gift 'Rain of Arrows' to a player who is Level 49, etc.

The above suggestions would be relatively simple to implement, keep the existing system going without causing major problems and would not effect the distribution/use of Star Coins. Players who run only the old adventures would still be able to use their Star Coins for items they can use, and those who run the new content would receive much more in Star Coins, but would have to spend a commensurate amount of Star Coins to use on the new adventures/scenarios. It would be foolish to run Ali-Baba's, collect tons of coins, and spend them on old adventure items, but if players wanted to, they could. Basically, once players are committed to running the new content, they will have little need for the old ones in any case; though there will be exceptions. The above suggestions should allow all types of players to continue without favor to any one type.

Please offer comments and suggestions. :general:

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I think this is one of the most balanced suggestions I've heard. I'm quite concerned that no longer being able to use star coins is going to render the game unplayable, because even FT's will be too expensive to run regularly, much less even beginning to undergo the grueling task of leveling above 50. I'm a casual player, and most of this sounds like the cost to benefit ratio in resources and time makes it just not worth it.

So is this a new thing, or just part of the Halloween event like granite for Christmas?

http://i.imgur.com/m6qaXmN.png

cool and good call for 1 army SP

Sounds confusing to me.

So for the new scenario, don't use any stinky potions on rats or decomposers on debris. Got it. Do you have any info on the Elixir, Machine Oil, and Barazek Buff yet?
Also are there going to be any other way to get those buff quests?

Easy way to combine items in star menu is as follows.

Scenario:
You have copper stores in star menu for amounts of 200, 100, 100, 50, 50.
Send a trade request to a friend or guild member for an amount of copper greater than what you have in your star menu. In this example say 700.
Next you move all your star stores to your mayor's house.
Finally your friend or guild member declines the trade and the total amount is sent back to you as a single amount minus what needs to bring your mayor's house to the total you can store in your store houses.

Caveat: You and your friend/guild member do need to make sure that they need to decline the trade.