In What order would you rather lose new Elite units

For example, with old units, I had imagined following weights for the relative cost of losing them -
R=3
B=4
M,LB=8
S=12
C=18
XB=20
ES=32
and so on...

Any thoughts on similar weights for new units?

Swordsman
Mounted Swordsman
Knight
Marksman
Armored Marksman
Mounted Marksman
Besieger

I am just going to stick to the first Ali Baba adventure once in a blue moon and use old units in foolish protest of the fact that I cannot take Knights to Bounty Hunter. Also level 54 is months away for me at best.

I wonder if IOTP would be doable in 1 attack with the new units? Barring the leaders of course.

Swordsman is the preferred sac troops
knight in 2nd place
then mounted sworsdsman, avoiding as possible

marksman could possibly be a sac unit to cover the other marksman if the price for the arquebus is cheap, time will tell, but until now i havent use them at all

all the others, protect at all cost :)

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Originally Posted by Ornias

I wonder if IOTP would be doable in 1 attack with the new units? Barring the leaders of course.

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To answer your curiosity, yes, just send 270 Knights to the last leader camp, and you'd be left with only first two leader camps..
You'd loose about 50-60 knights...

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Originally Posted by Evil_J

Swordsman is the preferred sac troops
knight in 2nd place
then mounted sworsdsman, avoiding as possible

marksman could possibly be a sac unit to cover the other marksman if the price for the arquebus is cheap, time will tell, but until now i havent use them at all

all the others, protect at all cost :)

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I was thinking Knight should be considered cheaper than Swordsman.. time to build is the same, and per my understanding, needs less platinum.. No?
Also, since it is 1st strike, can actually come in quite handy most of the times..

To tell everyone the truth, this is what I had initially come up with (but I am not fully satisfied without an open discussion) -
Swordsman = 16
Mounted Swordsman = 17
Knight = 1
Marksman = 32
Armored Marksman = 48
Mounted Marksman = 33
Besieger = 50

knights need alot to buildings to make them
platinum swords are easy, first woodcutter gives you 10k plat ore, 15k on prem, thats enough for like 20 runs of that adventure :)
how could knights cost 1?

btw my cost of old units is this, based on the cost for resources needed to make 1:

Troops Value
Recruits 1,125
Bows 1,25
Milita 5,625
Longbowmen 1,525
Soldiers 8,175
Cavalry 2,025
Xbowmen 46,025
Elite soldier 51,025
Cannonner 151,025

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Originally Posted by Evil_J

btw my cost of old units is this, based on the cost for resources needed to make 1:

Troops Value
Recruits 1,125
Bows 1,25
Milita 5,625
Longbowmen 1,525
Soldiers 8,175
Cavalry 2,025
Xbowmen 46,025
Elite soldier 51,025
Cannonner 151,025

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The "," is the decimal point.. right?

As for the cost of 1, the costs are relative.. so 1 is what I started with, in case of new units..
I could multiply the entire table by 2 or 3 if you like :)

Agreed.. that if platinum will be in abundance, then it won't matter that much.
I didn't care that much about buildings, because once you have them.. the chain can keep running.
Among the first 3 units, producing respective weapons shouldn't be that hard.
One needs plat sword, other needs knights, and the 3rd needs plat sword + knights.

Also, for your "cost for resources needed to make 1" Do you adjust them with market prices?

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Originally Posted by alice007

The "," is the decimal point.. right?

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Also, for your "cost for resources needed to make 1" Do you adjust them with market prices?

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yes and yes
got alot of stuff in my spreadsheet, that is a table with the cost to make 1 and time to train 1, receives values from the costs of recourses, and exports values to a table to calc barracks time, and a table to calc costs/profits ;)

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Originally Posted by Evil_J

yes and yes
got alot of stuff in my spreadsheet, that is a table with the cost to make 1 and time to train 1, receives values from the costs of recourses, and exports values to a table to calc barracks time, and a table to calc costs/profits ;)

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The obvious thing to say next is... share please :)
Although FYI, my only interest is the costing of new troops.. I understand that this may get clear only with time.
My costing for old troops was based on barrack times alone.. seems to have worked quite well without much variability..

New troops are only two sets of time.. 20 minutes or 30 minutes (lv1 barracks).. and hence doesn't work well at all.

Last, but not the least, please do keep posting on this thread.. any further information or insights one might get.
Looking forward to it :)

Thanks

price of new units only time will tell
i dont care much about cost on old troops, i care alot more about barracks time, just in case barracks time is about the same ill use the cost to untie
also need the cost to calc the profits of adventures, so i can tell SLT is better than HLT :)

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Originally Posted by Ornias

I wonder if IOTP would be doable in 1 attack with the new units? Barring the leaders of course.

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Dev's diary: Since the elite units are very powerful compared to the enemies, they cannot be used in old adventures.

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That means the answer is no.

In terms of kills and cost, how do the Swordsmen compare to the Elite Soldiers?

might be fairly cheap
only 1 plat swords to make them, and you get plenty of ore from ali baba loot
on my list ive 51gc value per ES, according to zeus prices, putting a rough predict value at 11gc per swordsman