Since last night maintenance (Lost usable space)

Since last maintenance I have lost usable space.

This is a warning when you go try to move or change building locations it's possible it will simply not fit in it's original location anymore.

Take screen capture prior moving and after in case your loosing the space and please add it to this post hopefully BB will do something since there is serious bugs with usable space since that last update

One thing that can help when your about to move a building is to compare the space from the testing website (www.tsotesting.com) this will work for main island but there is no 'easy' way to verify space for the archipelago since it would require you to kill all the bandit camps..

Post #27 For more problem since that last downgrade maintenance..

Lost space on main island and lost space on archipelago now it's kind of a real pain if you want to move building around or delete on thinking you could build a different one since there is some unknown chances that you will not have access to that spot anymore...:mad:

Please return the appropriate free space it used to be prior to maintenance

thank you


http://s12.postimg.org/4vhrkmdz1/Zone_3.png

http://s10.postimg.org/tfcveitq1/archipelago.png

HOW THE HELL IS THERE Map elements UNDER MOUNTAIN THAT DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE!!!

Those 'Demolition Crew' where coslty!!!

http://s14.postimg.org/91ci4ke0h/z_ONE_7.png

Problem seem to have been told to BB multiples times even on .com server but they are not listening beware

Has per report from test server we have lost 208 building space and this is just on main island!!
http://forum.tsotesting.com/threads/...-put-buildings

It is in the patch notes, should not be a surprise.

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Originally Posted by SweaterPuppies

It is in the patch notes, should not be a surprise.

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Building: Map elements cannot be removed by placing decoration buildings anymore

I must say that in the first image the lost of space where I used to have a flowerbed has been a valid decoration spot for over 4 years..and if I compare the possible decoration spots on the test server they have removed way more then possible 'Map elements' glitch they just removed a tones of functional space.

Never said I liked it or thought it was a good idea... just said they warned us. It is a lot better than the first iteration on test where they removed 1/3 of our building spots. Not decoration spots, building spots.

I moved a Dark Castle to a new spot on my island from where it was just below the extra marble quarry in S9. Then when I went to move it back to the same spot it would not let me do it. Kind of a pain since it was able to be there in the first place for so long.

I don't see where any changes to the footprint size of buildings is mentioned In the Change Log for 2-23-2016...

Forever Witch towers, Frozen Manors, Noble Residences, and recently Arabian Residences all have had the same footprint size on the Home Island. Imagine my surprise and frustration to learn that the recent game update changed or bugged this.

I use to be able to move or delete and rebuild these buildings in order to complete daily or guild quest without any difficulty... This is not because of the changes to Map elements that cannot be removed by placing decoration buildings anymore.

I moved a Witch tower for a guild quest requiring movement of Hunters and I can now place Frozen Manors, Noble Residences, and Arabian Residences all on the same location but the Which Tower now does not fit!

So who changed the footprints of buildings and why isn't it in the Change Log or is this an unintentional bug related to the new Map element changes?

There seem to be a lot of strange buggy spots now. Here's one that will fit most buildings just fine (like this wheat field) but it won't fit a witch tower.

http://i.imgur.com/BVp90Tj.png

http://i.imgur.com/j3RElAh.png

At this point, I'm afraid to move anything.

the game longer parks my general in the top left corner (on the shore) of s1... it was ALWAYS dropped there by the game automatically. now he's sent to a spot by the mayor's house. I worked hard to make all my gens FIT in the left corner of s1 - even put a storehouse there for faster deployment... and now i have this orphaned gen thats showing up in a totally new spot.

the screenshots shows where i mean (and yes i KNOW i cant manually put him there - but this is where the Game would put him when he returned - automatically).

https://ciara.smugmug.com/Computers/....39%20AM-L.jpg

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Originally Posted by bashing

Since last maintenance I have lost usable space.

This is a warning when you go try to move or change building locations it's possible it will simply not fit in it's original location anymore.

Take screen capture prior moving and after in case your loosing the space and please add it to this post hopefully BB will do something since there is serious bugs with usable space since that last update ...

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Thank you for the heads up. Fortunately, my island has lots of open range right now.

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Originally Posted by SweaterPuppies

It is in the patch notes, should not be a surprise.

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ROFL! Look who is all friendly... again. Manners of a goat. I would bet dollars to donuts that your guild just LOVES you in chat! XD

Hello,

Thank you very much for the reports.

I will forward everything to my colleagues.

BB_Endesmor

PS: threads merged.

Well this new feature - shouldn't be a feature at all under any circumstance, I don't care how the developer team sees it and or how BB sees it.

First and foremost - the magnificent residence costs a player 15000 beans from the epic items merchant tab.
It is not an easy task to complete as it takes time and patience.




Second you are stripping the player community from the availability to utilize such a critical population building from usage.
This further defeats the purpose and point of expanded islands.

This defeats the purpose of your game.

This defeats the purpose of your game continuing any further.

This destroys any reason anyone would want to support your game.


Take a look at this snapshot.
There are 4 horseman statues lined up together where I previously had a magnificent residence. After moving the magnificent residence I was unable to put it back there.
Like I said, magnificent residence was hard enough to find locations to fit. And now you totally destroy the option to even buying 1 or its existence by making it impossible to squeeze in to locations such as below.

I say tell the dev team to reverse the change for the magnificent residence. Nothing should be intended to limit the ability of a player to play the **** game.
Or else you tell me whats the god **** point of it all??

http://i.imgur.com/ZgWTimw.jpg

I must agree with Hellvena and others. It's a poor job done by the development team.

I must agree with Hellvena but the worst is that I can not understand the purpose

I must agree with Hellvena also.. Was not a good choice by BB

Yes, it is annoying that useable space has diminished, however, the inconvenience of finding out that a space has been lost and now I will have to rearrange a whole area or sector is even worse. I added on improved farm buildings and leveled them up, affecting my wheat economy which is no longer in balance so my wheat field depleted. When I went to replace that wheat field the spot it was in is no longer available, I did not know that there was a map element next to it or close to it, now that spot is gone...

Also, it is pretty unfair that the island storehouse extra spots on the archipelago are no longer there either. I cannot believe that more players have not complained about this. It is a big disadvantage to the later arrivals to level 60-62 for the granite, titanium and salt peter mines to not be able to place their island storehouses in the premium places. What happened there BB and why was there no announcement regarding this??

i'm with hellvena total FAIL !

Woot... I been stocking up on beans for residences and now... I don't know what's worse! Losing building space, or admitting Hellvena has an excellent point!

Agreed, losing previously unused space is bad, but losing used space is much, much worse.
Especially seconding the notion that there should have been a massive warning announcement (i.e., more than just some patch notes) BEFORE something like this is done, making it possible for players to think about solutions before the change goes through.

Hello,

Thank you for the feedback.

We will discuss the issue internally. I will get back to you as soon as I have more information to share.

BB_Endesmor

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Originally Posted by Ciara_Belle

the game longer parks my general in the top left corner (on the shore) of s1... it was ALWAYS dropped there by the game automatically. now he's sent to a spot by the mayor's house. I worked hard to make all my gens FIT in the left corner of s1 - even put a storehouse there for faster deployment... and now i have this orphaned gen thats showing up in a totally new spot.

the screenshots shows where i mean (and yes i KNOW i cant manually put him there - but this is where the Game would put him when he returned - automatically).

https://ciara.smugmug.com/Computers/....39%20AM-L.jpg

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Odd. I just finished an adventure and my MOMA parked close to there.
http://i.imgur.com/k7eQwtw.png

Where the generals land on that section of island is totally dependent on which adventure it is. I can't name all the ones that do or don't put a general in that spot off the top of my head, but I do know that it's consistent, depending on what adventure it is. Outlaws will always put a general there, but I can't remember which other ones do or do not; however, like I already said, it is consistent. And it's been this way for ages now.

that uper left corner is problematic it seem to be random some gen will land some will not land on that top left corner on that image..

I have seen it happen to me multiples times and sometimes a gen will spawn there and some other time I will get no space available while that spot is empty.

they removed the 2 spots in zone 2 and 3 where QM used to automatically land.

And the spacing issue is a major cluster *** for a lot of players on top of losing the coins and ressources on a building move your losing the usable space that has been available for years and years without any special glitch done... pick building, place building, building upgrade...move building bye bye spot that was available for the last 4 years.. there should have been a warning and some major notification on affected locations on players island.

Such a game changer move from dev team should have been way more transparent since it's NOT just affecting deco glitch like in their changelog

Building: Map elements cannot be removed by placing decoration buildings anymore

It's affecting spot all over the map that had no such possibility... like my flowerbed location in my image you never could have placed a building there but they took the space away I don't mind much but I had that flowerbed on that spot for ages and now it just look weird since most of my island was full of them and now that spot just seem out of place but who cares about deco the problem is real building space it's nice to have archipelago but what is the point of giving us all that space and then taking a lot of it away..

BB_Tease

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Originally Posted by SweaterPuppies

Odd. I just finished an adventure and my MOMA parked close to there.
http://i.imgur.com/k7eQwtw.png

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i've had my gen land there consistently for months and months until a few weeks ago... and since i did dozens of BK during halloween and xmas ... and a few recently it should behave the same... now w/ 10 different adv approx it never lands there :(

i never used the move deco features - so i would hope that i wasn't already in a 'bad' spot on any building.

+1 on the removed spaces... not only the ones mentioned by Hellvena, but also Qiana's comments on the Island Storehouses. I had to take a few out to temporarily free up some building licenses... now I cannot put them back. Same story over in s3 to the right of the mountains..... I moved a Noble Residence out of the way but couldn't put anything back in the space. If I had known there was an issue placing a building there I certainly never would have moved the Residence.

Frankly I'm a bit terrified to reorganize anything anymore. How many build-able spaces will I lose if I do? I pretty much play this game to plan, organize and reorganize my island... so if I can't do that confidently I may have to go look for another city-builder.

Definitely was NOT an improvement.

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Originally Posted by Mayleth;270312 [...

Frankly I'm a bit terrified to reorganize anything anymore. How many build-able spaces will I lose if I do? I pretty much play this game to plan, organize and reorganize my island... so if I can't do that confidently I may have to go look for another city-builder.

Definitely was NOT an improvement.

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Yep. I have a bunch of these new buildings (iFarms, iWM) waiting to place, and now.... I won't/can't. Waste of my gems and event resources. Nice dupe. Kind of like the con-job on Nords2.

Same as some spots that had Mag res Sector fence/flags wont allow the placement of them where They used to fit

And again got screwd NOT Double checking on tsotesting..

Since I was thinking after using those expensive mountain rock explosion those spots would still be available but I HO **** was I wrong on that part..

http://s14.postimg.org/91ci4ke0h/z_ONE_7.png

BB dev Please get your *** fixed that is totaly unacceptable !!

From Change Log again:
Building: Map elements cannot be removed by placing decoration buildings anymore

HOW THE HELL IS THERE Map elements UNDER MOUNTAIN THAT DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE!!!

How low can this go...

Lame, Lame, Lame, Lost another building site when attempting to switch sawmills around for better organization / efficiency -- and this was with existing buildings on normal locations... Exotic Wood Sawmill and Hardwood sawmill would not swap locations.

SO, this has effectively brought a halt to any further Home Island improvements until these issues are fixed! ;(

Some updates are best undone... this is very good example. Being able to remove bushes hurt nothing, this update hurts alot! I feel ripped off again!

One of the things I enjoy is reorganizing my island. Now that is not possible. 208 building spaces lost?!? Does this include decoration spots or is a 2x2 building spot 4 spaces?


As always, never move stuff after an update. From zone crashes to lost space, you know something is bound to be screwed up. Let the test monkeys vet out the changes before risking your stuff!

You like to organize your island? Don't try it, you can't go back if it doesn't work out.

You like efficiency and new iBuildings? Don't try it, that new 2x2 building might not fit where the old 2x2 or 3x2 building was.

You like upgrading - yeah, you can still do that, but the buildings will cost more to move someday, so maybe don't do that either.

You like your island the way it is today? Great, you'll love the new update. Until Easter, when new iButchers come out.

I am not building, expanding or moving. I will wait til this bug is fixed. It must be very hard to design bugs like this one.

Here's one of my weird spots:
http://i.imgur.com/QT6RECc.jpg
That's me trying to build a magnificent residence, ok, good, the spot still exists.
http://i.imgur.com/nzjt8wZ.jpg
well, that's working good so far
http://i.imgur.com/mw2z7tb.jpg
wait, what?

Curious to know what the motive was behind this island space altering was; I mean it's not like we did not have enough rocks, trees and stumps hindering our ability to produce with full efficiency anyhow. So, just wondering: Did BB have plans to implement new changes that required this to be done (for some reason), or was it just to keep some of the high-level money cats from 'tricking' a few spots? I truly hope it was the former.

Well it seems a lot of people are about to find out they just got screwed over.

You can now only place One Magnificent Residence (MR) per sector it seems now on the islands.

For example on the last large island a lot of people have 3 of them on that sector, but now you can only place 1 there. I was told this is same for other sectors on Islands also.

Oh and I would be very hesitant if you have your main island filled with MRs like I know a few people have done. Would not be fun to find out you can not place one back on the same spot if they have messed with main island also.

Hello everyone,

I would like to inform everyone that we are working on that issue. We are planning to make further changes; it will not be left in that state. Meanwhile, to provide all Settlers with the opportunity to rebuild affected island parts, we will soon conduct a "move building" event.

More details and the schedule will be shared in the next few days.

BB_Endesmor

Here is an example where placing a mag res where I used to have one no longer works, But I can place a Frozen manor anywhere in the place.

Looks like there may be a prejudice against the MR!!! ;) In this PC age, better be careful!


No improvements for my island until all is fixed (and there is a 'move' event).

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Originally Posted by Raubhautz

Looks like there may be a prejudice against the MR!!! ;) In this PC age, better be careful!


No improvements for my island until all is fixed (and there is a 'move' event).

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Someone wanted MR level upgrades... may be they are working on it, and didn't see why players should have more than one MR per sector... :D

Its just buggy. Moved a regular noble house this morning, the build space I moved it from disappeared. There were no bushes or anything that suddenly popped up to keep it from being rebuilt there, the build spot was just ... gone. Now its just a nice 2x2 piece of empty grass.