Wild Determination – Intrepid Explorer – Bug

Looks like it's deja vu all over again….

Screenshot that shows Intrepid has Wild Determination skill - 90% more map frags

http://i.imgur.com/cg9aHSx.png

Screenshot that shows skill has no effect on right hand slot

http://i.imgur.com/UdlUeIg.png

This time nobody needs to move this post out of Bug Report Forum and tell me everything is working as intended. Unless it's intended that it not be working.

With an adventure in the left hand slot and map frags in the right hand slot, wild determination doesn't work. I now understand it's not intended to work on double map frags. That being said, having an incorrect amount of map frags in the right hand slot has happened several times since I got her, in the manner shown in the latest screen shot.

Wow. You know with all the skills and abilities that DO NOT work as we perceive them to be working, it would be nice if there was an actual published FAQ by BB that would describe how these skills SHOULD work. Then we could apply skills and build our various specialists how best fits our needs/wants. We are stuck with trying to interprit what the skills/abilities are based on the 'translated' blurbs in the description, and the only help we get is from other players, who have no more information than we do. Even the wiki's that exist do not appear to have all the information that applies to some of these matters.

Like the Sophisticated Pillager, looks like another skill/ability leads us to believe one thing and dumps us on the way-side without explanation. Looking at Wild Determination, it is clear that 90% more fragmens are to be applied to ALL adventure searches; if it should only be applied to certain slots then it should declare that in the description, otherwise this is deception.

Blue Byte; please generate a FAQ guide for the game basics.

Todays screen shot should put to rest the erroneous explanation that wild determination is only intended to work once per adventure search. Please fix this bug, thanks.

http://i.imgur.com/9evPRtH.png

Hello,

Thank you for your detailed reports about this. We've forwarded the information on to our Team for another look.

Happy Settling,
BB_Sarrunah

Sorry if we got off on the wrong foot BB_Sarrunah. I know whoever it was in BB that advised you regarding my first post was just doing what programmers often do: offer a real quick explanation off the top of their head that makes perfect sense to them but has no basis in what's actually happening. Still made me mad tho, even knowing that's what was going on, but it wasn't your fault.

It's not like this is a big deal, but it's irritating when we get new things and they don't work cause they haven't been tested thoroughly prior to release. It happens way more often than it should, so every time it does, my level of irritation is getting higher than the last time, but that's not your fault either.

Thanks for your response this time around.

Well, is there any review by BB on this matter? Seems that our Intrepid's should be getting their skill applied to all their 'slots' that bring stuff back. I will start watching. -_-

Ok, now that I have put down the caffeine before I start my TSO mail where I just click everything from explorer searches to my star... Bingo, my explorers who do bring back additional slots of fragments/adventures (Intrepid Explorer and those Explorers/Scouts with 'Trouble-Seeker' skills applied) are being applied incorrectly (should all have +90% Fragments). See SS below:

http://i.imgur.com/MzF5qbC.png

SS showing explorer has requisite skills:

http://i.imgur.com/TLeVn1m.png

If there is any other snaps needed to help resolve this, feel free to request them.

Yikes, so you mean my Intrepid is shortchanhing me? How shocking!

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Originally Posted by Perwyn

Sorry if we got off on the wrong foot BB_Sarrunah. I know whoever it was in BB that advised you regarding my first post was just doing what programmers often do: offer a real quick explanation off the top of their head that makes perfect sense to them but has no basis in what's actually happening. Still made me mad tho, even knowing that's what was going on, but it wasn't your fault.

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BB_Sarrunah: welcome by the way.

Is it fixed?!?!?!?! Sure looks like it.

http://i.imgur.com/NJ5utSQ.png

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Originally Posted by Perwyn

Is it fixed?!?!?!?! Sure looks like it.

http://i.imgur.com/NJ5utSQ.png

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I would say not. Sometimes I get the extra map fragments in the second spot, sometimes not.

aw....... Boo!!

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Originally Posted by Perwyn

aw....... Boo!!

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Do not let my pessimism bring you down. I am quite often wrong. Maybe something changed in the past few days.

Well actually they probably wouldn't have snuck it in like that. I've just never seen it work before.

Well Puppies Person, you were right. I got another: adventure on the left, frags on the right and the frags were wrong again. So I guess it does fluctuate back and forth like you said.

There is probably a " missing somewhere in the code.

Hello Settlers,

The feedback received regarding the loot of the Intrepid Explorer has been passed on and an investigation followed.

Every time an explorer goes on an adventure search, a loot table is generated to determine which reward is obtained.
In the case of the Intrepid Explorer, an unskilled one will generate a loot table composed of two loot slots when sent on an adventure search, because of the "Intrepid skill".
When an Intrepid Explorer with the Wild Determination skill finds map fragments, a modifier is applied, increasing the amount of map fragments found. This skill (like all skills) only applies to the first loot slot. If the skill is maximized (90%), the original loot generated for this slot is multiplied by 1.90 and the total amount is displayed within the first loot slot.

When the Trouble-seeker skill gets triggered for an Intrepid Explorer, a third loot slot is displayed within the generated loot. This slot is not affected by any other skills. The adventure loot returned by the Intrepid Explorer has a maximum of 3 loot slots.

As a result, it is now confirmed that everything is working as intended.

Happy Settling,
BB_Sarrunah

If I find one adventure and map frags, why shouldn't the frags get the bonus? Any frags found should get the bonus, not just the 1st slot. It still looks like a bug, no matter what kind of explanation gets doled out.

Then of course there's always this, which pokes a wide, gaping hole in the official explanation. Of course the answer will be to "fix" it so only the first slot gets the bonus rather than make it work the way everyone in the game has expected it to work from the beginning, which is, all map frags found get the bonus applied, just like it's doing here, except it's not supposed to according to the devs.

http://i.imgur.com/9evPRtH.png

If this is going to be the "official stance", that Wild Determination only applies to a single slot, then the following needs to change.

http://i.imgur.com/h2zHu6V.png

There needs to be a qualifier, making it clear that this is how it's intended to work.

Once maximum costs are reached in the bookbinder, it takes more than 2 weeks (unbuffed) to produce the 15 manuscripts necessary to produce the 3 tomes needed to go to 90% bonus. Is it worth it if it doesn't work in conjunction with other skills, or with the Intrepids bonus slot? Not to me. But to change it, I either need to spend 1,000 gems, or lose half my books and spend many weeks re-making them. Sounds like fun, huh?

Hello,

Our Team has asked to collect some additional information.
When encountering these results, could you please let us know what Adventure search these were done on?
Also, could you provide the detailed information about the Intrepid Skill tree?

Thank you
BB_Sarrunah

Glad to hear we're still working on this. Thank you.

All searches I've done are very long adventure searches. After not doing adventure searches for several years, I restarted doing them when the Very Long Search became available.

The only explorer I have with Trouble Seeker is the Intrepid. Here's a screen shot of her skill tree.

http://i.imgur.com/uf9WP77.png

Regarding the screen shot I posted in #10 and SweaterPuppies responded to in #11, I was in error thinking 35 frags was Wild Determination working. My mistake, sorry for any confusion this may have caused. 35 frags is a normal return: it's either 20 or 35 and with the 90% bonus is either 38 or 67 (66?).

I'm pretty sure Raubhautz is having problems with Wild Determination in combination with Trouble Seeker on all his explorers, not just the Intrepid.

Hope this gets resolved to everyone's satisfaction. Thanks again.

Thank you for the information and screenshot Perwyn.
This has been forwarded to the Team for further review.

Thanks again,
BB_Sarrunah