I was wondering how many names, on a petition, BB would need to remove this quest from rotation? I am certain whatever that number is we can certainly achieve it quickly, am I right folks?
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I was wondering how many names, on a petition, BB would need to remove this quest from rotation? I am certain whatever that number is we can certainly achieve it quickly, am I right folks?
i am completely behind this and am signing this petition!
I most wholeheartedly concur with that, as its the only daily I will refuse to complete for my entire tenure at TSO!
Signed, please substitute with more Origami hehe
Thumbs up, 100% agree
yeah that one definitely is the worst of the worst!!
I agree. Horrible
Also anything requiring me to give up dozens of elite troops.
Thumbs up here too, I totally agree!
Agreed! Just got it/X'ed it. I have 50 manuscripts in storage (with the recipe), with no current plans for them and I STILL won't waste them on that terrible quest.
I kill that quest everytime
I have over a thousand manuscripts to make and you want me to give up 2? x every time
Hey guys,
I am sorry that you do not like this daily quest. Is it because it is requesting 2 manuscripts or are there other reasons for this as well? The more information and suggestions that you do give me, I can pass to our team to help get some stuff changed. You can either PM them to me or post directly here what the main issues are and even your ideas/suggestions on changes to it.
It take too long to make manuscripts to give them up for few crystals (that will probably get you nothing much, most times it's not a snippet). We need them to skill up geologist, explorers and generals (mine total 80, now times that by the manuscripts needed). Pretty sure most don't do this quest, I'd rather make a manuscript to get the crystals :P
It wouldn't be worth giving up 2 manuscripts for 40 crystals. Deleting the quest seems best.
Hi, there. for those without the recipe, the quest means giving up a significant amount of game time (for the binder) and resources in order to complete the quest. While the time element is better with the recipe, it's still a considerable amount. And the goods received (crystals) aren't even near instant gratification but are used to create more work and game time. Rather, it's an ROI issue: too much cost for the return on investment.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB_Odhran
I have completed or left the quest depending on my mood. But I wouldn't be at all heartbroken having it gone...
I would delete this daily quest, as it needs to much time to produce the manuscripts. in my case 15hrs per book
I'm far away of finishing all booking quests of geos, explorers or generals so still need every book!
BB should be able to see in their logs, how many people just deleting this daily quest.
Ron
Would be happy to see this one exit the rotation, thanks for the consideration
you need crystals to get the manuscript recipe. if you dont have the recipe you cant waste 2 manu for the quest and if you do have the manu recipe you dont need to waste manu to get the crystals.
I always cancel this quest. It takes a full day in the bookbinder to make 2 manuscripts. That's too much bookbinder time to donate. With the general skill tree and new specialists of all sorts, it already seems like I'll never be able to get my specialists all booked up, so no way am I going to lower my book supply even more.
I dont do forums a lot, but i fully agree on this, even WITH the recipe, i refuse to give up two manuscripts
I would consider giving up two manuscripts for enough crystals, but several crystals is not that number. I don't really need manuscripts so much that I would miss two of them, but I'm not giving them up for this reward either.
but you need crystals?
Lol. This is the only Daily Quest I have ever canceled. If you have a lvl6 Bookbinder on Hide Glue or Wilderwood Resin (best possible buff, each at x2 or +100%) it takes 10h (@5h/ea.) to run them... so assuming you have nothing else going on you have to be sure to get this one started in the wee hours, or of-course, have them laying around to discard. Rather put manuscripts into specialists or into the next tome.
Now, regarding Pathfinder.... I'd love to see an adjustment to:
- Reinforcing Our Ranks - 100 each of XB, E and K. Please. These are troops that are NEVER sacrificed and rarely lost by players of level 71+. Further, players of this level are very likely to already have a standing number of thee troops at hand, so adding 100 of each essentially forces one to waste these numbers of troops; recalling that 10x of each weapon are required for each of the Kingdom troops.
- The Finest Warriors - Similar to above, Besiegers and Armored Marksmen are rarely (if ever) used as sacrifices.
Cheers.
Long letters are somewhat helpful at XP progress. Plus I need to finish upgrading my epic farmyard, which I don't need.
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Originally Posted by Raubhautz
You don't want to know how many elite soldiers, xbows and cannons i already sac on tikki- the easiest adv i run, easy to control losses... Such a waste of resources...
Ok, i understand the Pathfinder quests are made not to be all easy and fast to complete, ok, BB wants us to waste barracks time, but really... this is just a waste of resources and a headache to get rid of the extra troops
And, speaking about Pathfinder quests... please, can you change the adventures we have to complete there? Or at least add more? It's kinda boring...
oh, and i always cancel the manu quest too, not worth wasting 2 manuscripts for a few crystals
i totally agree and would gladly sign
I haven't done this quest, so I had to look it up in one of the fan wikis to see what this thread was about.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB_Odhran
The bookbinder is something of gating system specifically designed to restrict players to a slow pace for this aspect of the game. Players can only build one bookbinder; books cannot be traded among players; there really aren't any practical buffs to increase production; the costs of production continually increase with more production; and production times are on a scale of days rather than minutes.
In general, I would think of a daily quest as a relatively easy quest one can accomplish in a short period of time, or that takes a very tiny fraction of one's production, for a small reward. In requiring 2 manuscripts, this "daily" quest effectively takes up two entire days worth of production. The cost of the quest is simply not worth the reward… on an order of magnitudes when compared to all the other daily quests.
To make this quest reasonable, the game would have to remove ALL of the aspects mentioned above: players would have to be able to build multiple bookbinders; books could be traded among players; regular buffs could be applied to the building; production costs would remain constant; and production times would be a matter of minutes rather than days.
On one hand it would be easier simply to remove the quest. But on the other hand, it is after all a game, and is up to the player to decide whether something is economical to pursue or not. Though, I didn't know a player even could cancel a daily quest until reading this thread.
ok i got the library again tonight and again cancelled it.
the 2 manuscript cost is simply too high for the 7 crystals offered, even with the manu recipe.
in theory the quest is good. pretty sure it gives the highest amount of crystals out of the quests. its just not high enough or the requirement is too high. change it to like 12 crystals for 2 manu or 1 manu for 6 crystals.
in practice it just gets cancelled and leaves an empty feeling for the day.
Thank you everyone for listing the issues here. I will be sure to pass this information along and hopefully we will see some changes to this.
thank you, BB_Odhran
Realize I never called this the "P" word as that is against CoC, as I was informed. It's a suggestion, to the devs, of what we would like removed from quest line for reasons stated by several.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackANinny
Always "x" that one. I can't get manu recipe (thought they fixed this). There is no way in he11 I am giving up 2 manuscripts.
dun want crystals for 2 manu, dun wan to sac extra 100xb, cannons, 100 besiegers also
Got this daily quest for the first time the other day, almost spat my breakfast out. Looks like alot of others feel the same way. Those books are already too hard to come by without having to give them away for a few crystal, hopefully they can put an end to it sooner rather than later.
i have cancelled this quest every time i got it.
All that's missing is Donald Trump saying: "YOUR CANCELED...!!!"
It's a looser, get rid of it or have it provide a reward that is worth sacrificing two Manuscripts.
this is the one giving 2 manu ?? heck no i'm not doing that... worse i was tired and clicked yes once.. was so mad.
robbery.. thievery..... grr.
ciara