This Halloween Event

In 2017 loot was x3 increase, which made pumpkin drops higher than what we're getting with x2. That combined with no low end adventures having a substantial drop makes this year a little harder. In 2017 Outlaws dropped 36 & 54, so with prem this was probably the absolute best adventure to be running. There is nothing like that this year, aside from ToW which is in an entirely different universe than Outlaws. The x2 XP doesn't compensate for the lack of pumpkin refills available this year because of x2 instead of x3 loot.

But don't forget that a few years back we got pumpkin fields that ran out and explorers did not bring back pumpkins. The only way to get pumpkins was to run a crapton of adventures. Which makes complaints about having to run so many adventures to get refills kind of superfluous. Now that explorers bring back pumpkins, having explorers makes a huge difference. If people don't have explorers, that's not BB's fault.

With that being said, so far I've been able to keep my nobles going without a lot of difficulty. I just put everything I can get into them and not worry about the others. I was out of town for 4 days last week with computer access for about 20 minutes in the evening 2 of those days and that's it. I already have the laboratory and just got the mad scientist this evening.

Bottom line is, I kind of enjoy the challenge of making the refills work. It's different than the other events and adds a little strategy combined with the dreaded...... "use of math skills".

Glad you are taking the challenge on and find it to be a good change of pace. It's also great to see that you've been able to get a few of the rewards as well.

-BB_Odhran

the refilling mechanics of this event is really bad.

for one, I didn't realize you have to turn off the Noble field before it finishes. I find out I can't refill it and have to buy fertilizer and then on top of that I find that the cost of the fertilizer eats pumpkins as a cost AND you don't get the amount of that either as a refill. the trade off cost is just ridiculous but at the expense of not getting the information anywhere in game or warning about how this refilling achievement works.

anyways- I did enjoy the new Terror quest adventure map. I like how it sort of reuses the same map and gives you a feeling that you're continuing your adventure from the last time you did the adventure. rather than a totally new map layout. felt like a solid adventure experience.


changes for the future? don't make the field expire in such a way where you have to use the fertilizer just let the refills be used directly.


another thing I don't like about the event is the achievement for the golems and their differently level. it creates a huge disparity in the guild and friends where if you have a buddy you trade buffs with and he's lower level than you are or vice versa, only one of you will benefit from doing the higher level golem water achievement. which results in the one guy having to go to general chat to 'friend' some random stranger outside of your friends list or guild members, just to complete the achievement. and in some case its wasted water because you aren't getting a watering trade back. having to double up on water duty basically. if a guild has no member at the higher level golems, it kind of gimps the guild a bit as well.

I don't enjoy this buff water trading aspect of the event. too complicated and not everybody gets the same golem.

changes for the future? get rid of the achievement of the golems watering. or have a generic, water "X" times

Though there are a lot more ways to get pumpkins, there is also plenty of new content to spend it on, and each new content item is increasingly higher priced than the last, no matter what level of usefulness it may have. Still, I am not feeling as if I am lacking in event resources. With enough effort, I will be able to get everything I want, though I may have to skip some things I may have otherwise pursued. I want all the unique non-tradeable rewards first, which is simple enough, and then I will worry about whether to get things like improved deerstalkers.

I'm fine with the water mechanic. I traded some, but mostly just found people to drop water on. They in turn can hit mine if they like. At least now it doesn't destroy until the person who owns the island says it should.

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Originally Posted by BB_Odhran

Glad you are taking the challenge on and find it to be a good change of pace. It's also great to see that you've been able to get a few of the rewards as well.

-BB_Odhran

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It isn't about the challenge of it. I think the mechanics of not getting those pumpkins directly makes it feels less rewarding. Normally if you do an adventure you see a direct reward it feels different than a refill which starts an entirely different process which isn't all that satisfying in itself.

I have got plenty of rewards already and probably won't have a problem getting everything I want either but I am retired and can spend hours and hours in the game a day. I just think the amount of time needed this event is excessive.

I prefer the refills to direct rewards for adventures. If I do a bunch of grinding at the start, I can relax and let my patches give me pumpkins. If it was direct, then not adventuring means getting nothing, and that means you have to keep grinding for the whole event. It becomes like Easter and that one nearly makes me quit each year from burn out.

As for the event, I love the new quest line, though waiting a week between each step is too long. Maybe increase the number of sections and make the wait 3 or 4 days. The lab is nothing but a star coin maker for me and that is okay, but for what it does, it takes way too much space. Especially since there are two. That second only speeds it up but still costs a lot of room. Not too sure on the specialist... I'm sure he will have his uses but they seem to be limited. As for the mansion, new pop buildings are always welcome especially when they have that much room.

My only real disappointment with the event, is that the rate that explorers find the higher return seems to have been dropped drastically. I can have my 29 explorers come back and it isn't unusual that only 1 or 2 get the higher reward. This is definitely a reduction from previous events and I cannot understand BBs recent need to restrict our event item return. Reduce what adventures give out, reduce the he chance of getting good returns... this doesn't add challenge for me, just unnecessary aggravation and I don't like it. An event should be fun, and having to grind all day and night to get my rewards is not fun at all.

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Originally Posted by Trialgame

I prefer the refills to direct rewards for adventures. If I do a bunch of grinding at the start, I can relax and let my patches give me pumpkins. If it was direct, then not adventuring means getting nothing, and that means you have to keep grinding for the whole event. It becomes like Easter and that one nearly makes me quit each year from burn out.

As for the event, I love the new quest line, though waiting a week between each step is too long. Maybe increase the number of sections and make the wait 3 or 4 days. The lab is nothing but a star coin maker for me and that is okay, but for what it does, it takes way too much space. Especially since there are two. That second only speeds it up but still costs a lot of room. Not too sure on the specialist... I'm sure he will have his uses but they seem to be limited. As for the mansion, new pop buildings are always welcome especially when they have that much room.

My only real disappointment with the event, is that the rate that explorers find the higher return seems to have been dropped drastically. I can have my 29 explorers come back and it isn't unusual that only 1 or 2 get the higher reward. This is definitely a reduction from previous events and I cannot understand BBs recent need to restrict our event item return. Reduce what adventures give out, reduce the he chance of getting good returns... this doesn't add challenge for me, just unnecessary aggravation and I don't like it. An event should be fun, and having to grind all day and night to get my rewards is not fun at all.

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I am curious what adventures you were able to grind to then be able to relax because as I mentioned originally the only people I know who were able to do this was the ones running the one ali baba.

And the explorers issue I think is fine - passive rewards imo should always be less than active ones.

im too tired to think and type, but everything they said i agree, way too much work for little in return. even the wisdom's not enough bc last 5 i did all doped low deposits.

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Originally Posted by Narasn

I am curious what adventures you were able to grind to then be able to relax because as I mentioned originally the only people I know who were able to do this was the ones running the one ali baba.

And the explorers issue I think is fine - passive rewards imo should always be less than active ones.

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Wisdoms. It was the only adv with good refills (and the double xp is awesome).

Agreed 100%. I am not quite sure how people who have to work for a living are able to keep the cemeteries running. I am struggling and I am on disability so I am home all the time. Not quite sure why I can run Arctic Explosions and get minimum of 12 refills but if I run one of the Tailors which takes 5 times as long and at least 5x the troops, I would get paid a minimum of 5 refills... huh? Come on, guys...