Done With Weekly Quests

So today I had the joy of logging in to a failed weekly. I had done everything to complete it except click "Pay 3600 coins" because I got involved in something else and didn't log back in, and nothing reminds you that you've done everything if you don't manually go in there and pay the resource.

So, while this is my fault, it's angered me enough to not even bother with them anymore. I'll probably due the silly ship, as those are free tokens, but anything that requires actual effort like running a bunch of one adventure or training troops only to sacrifice them, forget it.

So, would BB please add some variety to them? They feel like a chore not a challenge, since there is no fun in them and for me they're more frustrating than anything, I'm done.

I gave up on them when they were first introduced, but the ship is nice. I do about half of those so I get a slow flow of tokens.

Mine are glitched, but in a good way that gives me free tokens each week (and I mean actually free as in no resources paid out at all) so I like mine :D

Yes, the 'double' clicking/accepting of quests/subquests in some of the Weekly, Pathfinder and Daily Quests gets annoying. When it is just a Guild Quest, just annoying and perhaps some ribbing from guild mates as you messed up the total Guild coin count for the day, but for Weekly quests, the cost of failure is humongous as was posted in the original post. All those resources used and in the end lost since you forgot to click the acceptance of the quest a second time....

I was done at the start. The insanely high cost for a few tokens which wind up costing far more in the end than just buying grout in the first place just doesn't make sense to me.
I just wish we had an option to not even see the stupid things.
And the same for PvP stuff.

i still do only ships. the rest is insanely overpriced

I don't believe I've failed a weekly yet, but part of that is very generous guildies helping with ToW advs - those are getting hard to find, please make the "adventure" requirements include at least two different advs, perhaps "ToW or ToK", "BC or SS", "WW or Split City".

Each week the pop up says quest failed or mission failed and I think to myself... the failure is not on me. I've never completed even 1 because I just presume that it is very long and very expensive.

I have no idea if any BB actually reads these, never have as responses ONLY seem to come when there is a violation of some blathering rule and they want to scold somebody. An occasional note, poke would suffice to show the average interested TSO player in North America that BB gives a rat's patooie



In any case, here goes my 2¢ on the issue(s) I have with the Weekly Quest Chain:

• As mentioned in the original post in this thread, the need to click the same quest/sub-quest multiple times for the same completion (seems only to happen in those quests requiring payment of some good, but regardless) is frustrating, unnecessary and can cause confusion/missed quest opportunities where the quests were actually complete.
• As mentioned in other responses in this thread, also relating to Weekly Quest chains is the requirement to complete adventures that are rare and hard to find (e.g. Treasure of Wisdom in particular is exceedingly rare and requires 3x be performed when it is called up), or mandating 4x player coop adventures. Whirlwind comes to mind here as when it comes up, 3x Whirlwinds are required for the sub-quest to be completed. Getting 4x players to commit to this is getting harder by the week. Very few players are ready to lock their loot spot down for an unspecified time as they know until all 4x players are available, they may get stuck and have to work or do other Real-Life activities... you see this can be an infinite regress of getting more players to join a possible losing situation. It has taken me 3-5 days to complete this one sub-quest and limited my adventure time to 3x total in that time as my primary loot spot is full of WW waiting for other 3x players to join.
  
  Possible solutions to this issue would be:
  
  1. Allow players to cancel the Weekly Quest all-together and start a new one all over again.
  
  2. Put some more player friendly adventures in place of the tired and rejected Whirlwind;
  e.g. Tomb Raider (4-player coop that is not only faster, but garners a lot more interest from other players);
  or perhaps for higher level players impose on them to run the new 'Split City' coops (2-player ones, but still, much more challenging).
  
  3. For difficult-to-get-players coops or Rare Adventures, perhaps reduce the number of adventures required for the Sub-Quest.

For BB, I look forward to and am quivering with anticipation to any response to this thread; and for fellow players, please feel free to respond with thoughts/ideas you all may have on these issues.


Cheers and happy adventuring. :pumpkin:




PS - Understand me in that I know BB is attempting to provide us challenging and difficult tasks in these various Quests/sub-Quests, but the ones in question are not so much challenging as they are not in our control; I/We have plenty of friends that we deal with on a daily basis providing trades, loot spots various levels of socializing... but we are not in positions that can force other players to play coop adventures that they are not interested in playing. Thus, these sub-quests are beyond our ability to complete in such a time frame. Thank you.

For me, now that I have reached level 66, weekly quests are just too expensive both in resources and time demands. My computer gaming is usually only about 2 hours at night so having ridiculously long production quests is out of the question. I managed to get through them until I hit level 66. Until then, I liked the challenge and they were usually doable, though I quit doing "Kingdom Defense" because of the WW requirement. Now they just aren't worth the cost and I have a real life that precludes me being a slave to a "casual" game which is supposed to be a way of relieving stress. There is enough challenge in the game without needing to do the weeklies.

With that, my request is that the default for the weekly to be either minimized or and always at the bottom of the quest book, or allow players to turn off/on the weekly quest function if we want a pause. The quest book window gets crowded, especially during events.

We also need to be able to dismiss the "Love Garden" quests if it's one we prefer not to complete.

i typically do the weekly ships.. and only do the city one if i have a city and scout and all ready to go. i am sick and tired of being begged to do whirlwind.. getting locked into to it for hours if something happens in real life for a player (we've had players fall asleep waiting for walls to come down).. and the of course the leader trying to find that elusive 4th player. It really should be any co-op x 3.. but we've been asking for that since weekly's started... soo i doubt they'll start listening now .. so i revert to my original opinion #stupidweekly

Since I started this thread, I thought I'd come back to say I still think the weeklies are a great concept... much like the Pathfinder... but there is soooo much in game content not being used for these tasks it's mind-blowing.

The game mechanic is already in place. It appears to work pretty seemlessly, from a programming point of view. So, to make it way better....

ADD VARIATION:
1) Add about four new weekly challenges, with completely different tasks. They don't have to be easy, or balanced well initially, you guys can check the server stats for completion rates etc to see if we're doing them, where the pain points are, etc. Adjust them on the fly.
2) After we've cycled through those a few times, change a mission requirement from "Run Whirlwind three times" to "Run Tomb Raiders three times" then after a few cycles of that, switch it to The Siege, then something else. Change Whirlwind to 2x from 3x for one cycle, let us have a better chance to line up four players twice vs three times.
3) Keep doing #2 above to keep us fresh. With eight different weeklies instead of four and the opportunity to run some different adventures, it would be way more entertaining and use more of the content in game. Do you know most of us are probably running a base adventure over and over, because it's easy, or we like it, or it gives good loot/xp, and then we run the one you have in a weekly... how much content are we not using on a regular basis. I'd love an "End of the World" one, where one of the rewards in step one is EOTW, then you have to run it in step two... most players playing today have never run that content. Shoot, throw one of the old soccer match missions (not scenarios) in there, have a weekly challenge that's "Game Week" needing much beer and villagers and bread and sausage and stuff.
4) Also, to eliminate my original issue... remove "pay resource" tasks. Add another adventure-type task, as in run one venture, one coop (or), one mini. Any one. We pick, so it's an easy part of the challenge. This allows the tasks to give us "Quest Completed" alerts when we complete a task instead of having to go remember.


Pathfinder:
Similar situation, just add some new tasks. Outlaws, Stealing from the Rich, etc. Different troop combinations to build. Sac some of the troops we overbuilt for the previous week.

Anyway, would love a response, because improving how already existing mechanics drive our interest would really help, without requiring BB to re-invent the wheel.

My glitch fixed itself. I hate these things again.

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Originally Posted by CoffeeCat

[...] We also need to be able to dismiss the "Love Garden" quests if it's one we prefer not to complete. [...]

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Good point on that one, that one I forgot about as well. That one is so bizarre anyhow as it is only semi-clear on what needs to be done, and to try to place 20 buildings around the garden is nearly impossible given the layout of the isle.... have to run one garden, and watch closely for the narrow window is open then activate the 2nd garden which then exceeds the 20 and completes that quest.. lol

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Originally Posted by KingHomer

[...] The game mechanic is already in place. It appears to work pretty seemlessly, from a programming point of view. So, to make it way better....

ADD VARIATION:
1) Add about four new weekly challenges, with completely different tasks. [...] Anyway, would love a response, because improving how already existing mechanics drive our interest would really help, without requiring BB to re-invent the wheel.

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Kewl, I like the ideas.... +1

The weeklies are a mixed bag. Some of the resources required aren't worth the rewards, doing 3 of any single adventure is a total waste, and probably due to a lack of initiative on the part of devs to vary the adventures.(it is just so much less trouble to program 1 adventure to recur 3 times than to expend time and gray matter to coming up with a weekly variety of adventures. So like so many others, I will farm tokens and EP from the ships and from the less trying parts of the quests, and avoid doing three of the adventures, (especially Storm recovery, which to me is a complete waste of time and resources)

Agreed, variation, and ensuring a reasonable amount of resource requirements in ratio to rewards would be good.

The weeklies aren't even remotely worth it. I do the ships about 80% of the time, until they ask for hundreds of book parts. BB can't conceive of anything that doesn't cost 10 times more resources than it's worth. Makes me wonder how they ever came up with the first Settlers game at all.

I just don't do them. And find it annoying that I cannot self cancel them. The token payout is so low in proportion to the resource layout, and in proportion needed for upgrading buildings. My 3 nickels and I'm sticking to it :)