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Thread: Is Resource Scamming against TOS?

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    1. I'm sure you could have read the TOS yourself instead of using that as a front to call someone out. In fact, you should technically know the TOS like the back of your hand, since you agreed to follow it when creating your account.
    2. Why would you send him the resources to help build the Guild House if he apparently didn't have enough storage space to store all of the resources?
    3. If he were hording money for himself, wouldn't it make sense that he would storm ahead of others with upgraded buildings and such?
    4. You have no proof that the (refund) agreement mentioned doesn't exist. The timing of the edit is not proof enough to accuse someone of lying.
    5. If you run guilds in other games, you should know that scamming is quite common, and should be wary of it regardless of whether you're in a beta environment or not.
    6. If you run guilds in other games, you should also know what a well-organized guild would entail, and would expect to see more than a couple numbers to show progress toward the guild's creation.
    7. You make no mention of how you expect a refund in your reply to his thread.

    I'm not trying to defend Mr. Chase, but you went about this in all the wrong ways, and I don't feel much sympathy for you being scammed, if it is indeed a scam. I don't think cracking down on scamming is necessary. I think making people aware of how to avoid getting scammed is much more important and would be more effective in the end. I'd also like to add that calling someone out publicly is not the way to go about doing that, nor is it going to influence anyone with any authority to be more helpful to you than they would have been otherwise.
    Last edited by Fkyx; 08-09-11 at 07:51 am.

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    well hello everybody it me the "Supposed scammer" If i told everyone in a personal message i would refund the their resource May not every may have gotten the message. Captemo was the 1st one that had left he ask for a refund so i told him he will receive a refund after the guild house was built and will revive his 200 coins he donate when i hit lvl 23 since that is that lvl you start producing coins Now I don't care if you think i am a scammer or not all that i say is true.
    When i say i will do something it will get done. But if you don't believe i will do it i just might not do it because of your attitude.
    Windgerud only left for one reason and one reason only because my mayor house was lvl 1 and you know what he asked me "How can you build something if you cannot hold the resource for it" Granted it is a valid point but a major house isnt the only think you can use for storage I.E the storehouse which i have uses my hard earned resource to build up to lvl 3 to hold enough resource to build guild house. and if you dont believe me on the refund i stated it on my Guild page.

    GOOD day or night to you all
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    Chase the creator of The Founders
    Last edited by Chase; 08-09-11 at 02:12 pm. Reason: spelling mistakes

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    I don't understand this thread. Now that The Founders is up and running...Why not join it? I distinctly remember Chase saying in chat yesterday that the guild would be done today. I looked and sure enough it's there.

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    I agree with Fkyx.
    He actually did build the guild with Lvl 1 Mayor house. Am not defending him because I helped him build it, but because I was aware about the risk involved in sending him resources, if after a while he did not build it, I would move on either to a new guild, or maybe make my own.
    But calling him out on the forum is a bit too premature on your side. Even more so because he actually built it.

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    Tapewormz. i don't want a immature kid in the guild who will just cause problems it is best for everyone if he just stay out of the guild

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chase View Post
    Tapewormz. i don't want a immature kid in the guild who will just cause problems it is best for everyone if he just stay out of the guild
    Really, you want to speak about immaturity? you treated those who decided not to stay in your guild as your personal bank... you USED those who did not want to be in your Guild to make a Guild House and those who did stay with you, payed out the nose for being in it (5 people making a guild instead of 15...). I don't recall volunteering to give you a loan. The fact that you deleted your original thread at the Guild forum shows that you are trying to cover your underhanded strategy of using other players for your own benefit.

    f i told everyone in a personal message i would refund the their resource May not every may have gotten the message
    You did not post in the original Guild thread that you would KEEP all funds until the Guild House was made regardless if a person decided to leave the Guild before it was built. You ONLY added that after the mail I sent you, and later on deleted the thread altogether to cover it up.

    The fact that you build the Guild House doesn't take away the way you actually reached the goal... by scamming. It is a scam if you make up rules as you go to fit your needs and ignore the time and effort those who gave you resources that decided to leave.

    @chefsami: I sought advice from CEO players who had been around longer than me and told me to try and mail him to come to an agreement, the first post in this thread shows the result of it which was far from satisfactory or fair. It was AFTER my attempt to get my resources back and his refusal to do so because it wasn't in his best interest that this thread was done so everyone would know the kind of person Chase is.

    Guild House - Completed
    Guild Leader - Untrustworthy

    I don't make up things as I go, everything I stated is FACT.


    And the thing is that, Chefsami is refunding me the resources and NOT his Guild Leader. I guess they must be good friends to bail someone out like that, I can respect that.
    Last edited by Windguaerd; 08-10-11 at 12:44 am.

    Get your [UnOfficial] CEO Basic Signature here!

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    Oh get over it Windguaerd. Move on.

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    I understand how u feel wing. But people do make bad investments. And i don't think chase r capable of paying you back...

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    I agree this is wrong; in fact it's aided me in putting Chase and his guild on my ever growing list of people to not to associate with on this game. This being said, I don't think there are actual rules against it: in fact, I get the impression this game is following an EVE Online-like rulelist when it comes to that. Meaning, take precautions, only give/trade someone you truly trust, and even then it's not insured

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    Demacia back i decided on my own i would pay everyone back a few days after I started Asking for res to start guild 2 people left and i told them i would refund the resource after it is finished if Wind wants to be a whinny lil ***** let him i don't care i am Mature enough to ignore him and to people who believe him go ahead believe him. I will refund as i promised But i can't just pull 3k recourse out of my Heart now can i? And i didn't ask Chefsami to send your resources he was tried of your Unicorn herd too. And so was everyone in the GC. and i deleted my original thread because i was not needed. and at this rate i dont want to give you your refund.
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