[Adventure] Victor the Vicious

[Ygrane]

*THIS GUIDE IS OBSOLETE

Victor the Vicious:
(This is a 3 man, 8 skull adventure. I ran it solo, so my losses were large, but it was very do-able within the time given.)


Troops needed:
1252 Recruits
681 Militia
490 Cavalry
177 Longbowmen
626 Soldiers

Troops Lost: (It's worth noting that you won't lose this many troops. I was running this blind, but there are good German guides that I was unaware of when I started this guide that will help keep these losses down. See the alternate troop formations, or check out Aerose's link below.)

1252 Recruits
681 Militia
440 Cavalry
40 Longbowmen
619 Soldiers

XP: 27,482


I ran the first portion of this making up my own troop formations, which I am admittedly not very good at, so don't laugh at my armies, they were brave lads, and made me proud.

(I've included some alternate troop formations from the German Site which I unfortunately found a little late, Alt1 and Alt2:
http://www.siedler-games.de/forum/ds...-von-10-a.html)

There are 3 starting sectors. My troops started in the middle landing sector.

Starting Sector: (lower left)

Blue Camp 1: 50 dogs, 50 thugs 50 rangers
Sent: 50 R, 100 C, 50 S
Lost: 39 R, 50 C

Alt: 40M 120C 40LB, lose: 23-30M

Blue Camp 2: 100 rangers, 50 roughnecks
Sent: 20 R, 20M, 100C, 20LB, 40S
Lost: 20R, 20M, 7S

Alt1: 40M 120C 40LB, lose: 23-30M,
Alt2: 160R 20M 20S, lose: 72-85R


Blue Camp 3: 50 dogs, 100 roughnecks
Sent: 70R, 60M, 70S
Lost: 70R, 37M

Alt1: (1) 59R
(2) 40S 160LB lose 88-92S
Alt2: 200S, lose: 48-49S


Blue Camp 4: 60 dogs, 50 rangers, 50 roughnecks
Sent: 200R
Lost: 168R

Alt1: (1) 71R
(2) 42R 60C 98LB, Lose 102-112R or you could send: (2) 50R 50C 100LB, Lose 108-119R
Alt2: 200S, lose: 65-70S


Blue Camp 5: 50 dogs, 100 roughnecks
Sent: 70R, 60M, 70S
Lost: 70R, 37M

Alt1: (1) 59R
(2) 40S 160LB lose 88-92S
Alt2: 200S, lose: 48-49S


Leader 1: 100 dogs, 99 roughnecks 1 one-eyed Bert
Sent: 200 soldiers
Lost: 77 soldiers

Alt1: (1) 113R
(2) 39S 161LB, Lose 113R, 32-38S
Alt2: (1) 200R
(2) 30M 170LB, Lose 200R, 18-28M

Top left sector: (I took this route because I wasn’t paying attention, and didn’t notice until after it was too late that there was a better way to go. I took the path under the rocks, skipping 4 camps. I’ve marked this route in red, since it’s really an alternate route. You would most likely take the yellow path, taking the two camps in the center sector and Leader 3 right after you defeat Leader 1, and then attack leader 2 from the right, for fewer losses.)

Green Camp 5: 50 dogs, 100 roughnecks
Sent: 50R, 50C, 50LB, 50S
Lost: 50R, 50C, 26S

Alt1: 200S, Lose: 48-49S
Alt2: (1) 59R
(2) 40S 160LB, Lose 58R, 29-33S

Leader 2: 100 dogs, 99 roughnecks 1 one-eyed Bert
Sent: 10M, 190S
Lost: 10M, 70S

Alt1: (1) 113R
(2) 39S 161LB, Lose 113R, 32-38S
Alt2: (1) 200R
(2) 30M 170LB, Lose 200R, 18-28M

Center Sector: (I took the top camp first)

Camp 8: 50 dogs, 120 roughnecks
Sent: 1st wave – 50C
2nd wave – 20M, 100LB, 80S
Lost: 50C, 20M, 33S

Alt1: 200S, Lose: 65-70S
Alt2: (1) 59R
(2) 48S 152LB, Lose 59R, 41-46S

Camp 7: 50 rangers, 120 roughnecks
Sent: 20R, 75C, 25LB, 80S
Lost: 20R, 55S

Alt1: (1) 200R
(2) 35R 60C 105LB, Lose 200R, 27-35R
Alt2: (1) 60C
(2) 48S 152LB, Lose: 60C, 42-46S
Alt3: 200S, Lose: 73-85S


Leader 3: 50 dogs, 60 rangers, 80 roughnecks, 1 One-Eyed Bert
Sent: 1st wave – 200R
2nd wave – 100LB, 100S
Lost: 200R, 34S

Alt1: (1) 180R
(2) 25M 75C 100LB, Lose: 180R, 17-23M
Alt2: (1) 59R
(2) 75M 75C 50LB, Lose 59R, 58-74M
Alt3: (1) 200R
(2) 20M 75C 105LB, Lose: 200R, 12-17M

Bottom right sector:

Leader 4: 1 One-eyed Bert, 100 dogs, 99 roughnecks
Sent: 1st wave – 118R
2nd wave –80M, 100LB, 20S
Lost: 118R, 60M

Alt1: (1) 113R
(2) 39S 161LB, Lose 113R, 32-38S
Alt2: (1) 200R
(2) 30M 170LB, Lose 200R, 18-28M

Camp 10: 100 rangers, 100 roughnecks
Sent: 50M, 50C, 50LB, 50S
Lost: 50M, 46S

Alt1: (1) 100R
(2) 60M 115C 25LB, Lose: 100R, 47-58M
Alt2: (1) 150R
(2) 40M 115C 45LB Lose: 150R, 31-39M

Camp 11: 100 dogs, 100 roughnecks
I discovered the German guide right about here, so my troop composition is pretty much their first choice from here out.
Sent: 1st wave: 113R
2nd wave: 160LB, 40S
Lost: 113R, 27S

Alt1: (1) 200R
(2) 25R 175LB , Lose: 219-224R
Alt2 : (1) 180R
(2) 25M 75C 100LB , Lose: 180R, 17-23M

Leader 5: 1 Skunk, 1 One-eyed Bert, 100 dogs, 90 roughnecks
Sent: 1st wave: 113R
2nd wave 158LB, 42S
Lost: 113R, 33S

Alt: (1) 200R
(2) 30M, 170LB, Lose: 200R, 18-28M

Middle Right Sector:
There are 3 Wolf traps: (see map)
(You should attack the second wolf trap first, allowing your troops to be intercepted by the first wolf trap, and then continuing on to defeat the second trap easily with the remaining troops.)

150 wolves Sent: 89R, 105M, 6S
Lost: 10R

100 wolves
Sent: 79R, 105M 6S
Lost 6R

200 wolves (skipped)

Camp 13: 100 rangers, 100 roughnecks (Didn’t follow the German guide here)
Sent: 50M, 50C, 50LB, 50S
Lost: 50M, 43S

Alt1: (1) 100R
(2) 60M 115C 25LB, Lose: 100R, 47-58M
Alt2: (1) 150R
(2) 40M 115C 45LB, Lose: 150R, 31-39M

Camp 14: 100 dogs, 100 roughnecks
Sent: 1st wave: 113R
2nd wave: 160LB, 40S
Lost: 113R, 28S

Alt1: (1) 200R
(2) 25R 175LB, Lose: 219-224R
Alt2: (1) 180R
(2) 25M 75C 100LB, Lose: 280R, 17-23M

Leader 6: 1 Metal-toothed, 40 dogs, 155 roughnecks
From here on there was only one option for troops given in the German guide, no alternate troop compositions were offered.
Sent: 1st wave: 40C
2nd wave: 135M, 40LB
3rd wave: 137LB, 63S
Lost: 40C, 135M, 40LB, 62S

Top Right (Final) Sector:

Camp 16: 40 dogs, 80 rangers, 80 roughnecks
Sent: 1st wave: 47R
2nd wave: 60M, 95C, 45LB
Lost: 47R, 52M


Camp 17: 80 dogs, 40 rangers, 80 roughnecks
Sent: 1st wave: 95R
2nd wave: 55C, 46M, 99LB
Lost: 95R, 41M

Camp 18: 1 Skunk, 100 rangers, 80 roughnecks
Sent: 1st wave: 50C
2nd wave: 55M 75C 70LB
Lost: 50C, 44M

Leader 7: 1 Wild Mary, 2 Skunks, 100 scavengers, 50 rangers
Sent: 1st wave: 80M, 120C
2nd wave: 45M, 80C
3rd wave: 85S, 115LB
Lost: 125M, 200C, 78S

[frood42]

So awesome! Thanks for doing this!

[Aerose]

Ugh, yea too bad you didn't look up the german wiki info first. You should lose 240 cav at most.

[Ygrane]

Ugh, yea too bad you didn't look up the german wiki info first. You should lose 240 cav at most.

Yes, Aerose... too true. My goal here is to help people like myself, who are just starting to explore the different available guides, since there is nothing on the American side that talks about Victor. Perhaps you could also post, to help, since you seem familiar with these guides? Would be greatly appreciated, I'm sure.
Thank you for the input. I agree, 240 cav at most. Wish I had known sooner!.

[Aerose]

Well the German wiki has tons of useful info. Most of it you can figure out just by looking and after a while you don't even need the translator to figure out what your looking for. Just select the quest by picture from http://www.siedlertools.de/wiki/Abenteuer

When you select the individual quest you will see a picture link with Kampfaufstellung written on it. These are the spread sheets that usually depict a simple attack (w/o xbows) and an advanced attack in the right column (with xbows for reduced losses). The spread sheets are pretty straight forward and troop losses are at the bottom. This is the one for Victor. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...2NmRVR3c#gid=0 Oh and camps shaded gray are camps which you can bypass.

Any questions about it, ask and I can probably point you in the right direction.

[Ygrane]

Fantastic! That's most helpful, thanks!

[Xtermin8ir12]

Can you post some rewards you go Vgrane?

[Shallay]

Can you post some rewards you go Vgrane?

Dude, no offense, but it is Ygrane