Regarding the recent negativity in Ares

[Faith_4]

Tis true, what the Greek said. Ignore function is for this very reason: if you don't want to put up with it, make it go away. The best was to get rid of trolls is to take away their audience. Simple solution... problem solved. (happy dance for solving the problem)

ooo nice happy dance And agree totally! All they want is the attention.

[Greek_Spartan]

Would be nice. What they need to add is a GR Tab. (Guild Recruitment tab)

YES, this would keep all the guild recruiting people from posting in global, and would give new players a place to go see who's available to join.

i know they can check the guild shield..but if i knew who was available without doing a lot of searching, i would rather that.

(as said earlier, keep thinking happy thoughts, and never forget what monty python taught the world, it was to always look on the bright side of life)

[LordB]

they need to make a second trade tab for the regular traders to talk (and not necessarily about trade but also strategy and small chat) with certain rules to follow so it doesnt become g-1.

This is sooo true. You cant help but form connection with people you are jockeying with and it isn't really viable that a random G 2-10 or whatever is used. That said BB is good at not bothering us that badly when we get social unless cry babies are around. Trade tab and seeing people pop in and out ya may not have seen in months, is one of the most pleasant things about the game.

[Snacknado]

I havent really put my thoughts and concerns in this thread about this thread but i do agree and see alot of players on ares who are extremely negative. I play on ares (a little) and i have helped a lot of players on there but i tried to give tips to players in trade tab about certain things that I have learned over time from Zeus Server and have gotten trolled and shot down every time. I dont mind being trolled but i just feel like they (the general Ares player) are no where near our level of play in Zeus. It is sad when you try to help and spread knowledge to a newer server to only be called at troll (im not sad, i think it is sad for them to totally disregard and talk down on something that could help them significantly). I have tried to give pro tips of trade and "maximization" of their islands to people of trade tab in ares to only be called a troll (while seriosuly trying to help them) so now i just share the tips and any new info with my guildies on there and let them prosper over the rest. Take it or leave it but their immaturity shows when they have no idea what i am talking about and immediately shoot me down, while they will (hopefully) learn some of the tips i tried sharing months ago in the future on their own or through friends but why wait when the help and tips was already offered. Anyways- a 2nd trade tab/strategy tab, yeah, make it happen BB

[SunTheGreat]

Angelbuns - I generally share your view about negativity and bickering being frequently present on Ares; it would help if you could specify in which areas tho;
I dont know bout global-1, but on trade and recently on help too I frequently encounter an atmosphere of bickering, ranting, mocking and sometimes even personal attacks;
now some comments in trade are about irrealistic offers being advertised, and this logically genders a reaction which is not wrong; but I've seen this getting out of hand quite often.

and some players just seem to like bickering and mocking others, and currently there is no way to make them stop - the general atmosphere seems to be that such keyboardwarrying is acceptable, and those who try to introduce a different and more postive culture of communication are being roughed up.
Sure there is an ignore function, but if the general atmosphere is too negative, this is not of help;

@Truehead: did not notice you, but as a general advice: do not give advice to people who dont ask for any - you are likely to get a negative feedback, and some people hiding behind the anonymity of the internet are only waiting for a target on which to unleash their negativity (at least on ares, thats the case - and in other games I've seen things way worse.)

[Aurboth]

Since nearly everyone seems to be in agreement that there are things that have happened in the community that have not beneficial and that they would like to stop them from happening again, are there suggestions on what can be done to help foster improvements?

Some people have offered ideas for making a guild channel for recruitment or a trade channel for topics concerning trading in general, although not specific trades. Perhaps some of the global channels can be formally re-designated and give the players the ability to have more than one open at a time? By this I mean remove the last global channels and change the names by which people will reach them.

Guild recruiting efforts may be helped by improving the guild interface, perhaps allowing the leaders to designate which guilds are actively looking for new members and allowing people to filter out just those guilds. Some of us would like some of the old functionality restored, and allow everyone to see the list of members in each guild as before. Maybe we need a guild leaders channel for all the guild officers to have a place to discuss issues such as recruiting and guild accountability.

While everyone surely has a wish list of all the things they would like to add to the game, since we have gotten some recognition that there are problems, maybe this would be a good time to focus on finding solutions that can be reasonably implemented.

[AngelBuns]

Since nearly everyone seems to be in agreement that there are things that have happened in the community that have not beneficial and that they would like to stop them from happening again, are there suggestions on what can be done to help foster improvements?

Some people have offered ideas for making a guild channel for recruitment or a trade channel for topics concerning trading in general, although not specific trades. Perhaps some of the global channels can be formally re-designated and give the players the ability to have more than one open at a time? By this I mean remove the last global channels and change the names by which people will reach them.

Guild recruiting efforts may be helped by improving the guild interface, perhaps allowing the leaders to designate which guilds are actively looking for new members and allowing people to filter out just those guilds. Some of us would like some of the old functionality restored, and allow everyone to see the list of members in each guild as before. Maybe we need a guild leaders channel for all the guild officers to have a place to discuss issues such as recruiting and guild accountability.

While everyone surely has a wish list of all the things they would like to add to the game, since we have gotten some recognition that there are problems, maybe this would be a good time to focus on finding solutions that can be reasonably implemented.

First off i would like to be able to have password protected chatting, and by this i mean if say, myself and 10 other ppl want to go chat in another global others shouldnt be able to snoop on you without a password. We all need to get away sometimes and there are several ppl that still refuse to come back to global 1. Also the findfriend feature is nothing but trouble as my real friends know all they have to do is whisper and ask me where I am at so I think we should do away with that. Recently had issues with that feature that caused me to dramatically shorten my friend list.

Also, directing ppl to help tab shouldn't be made such a big deal of. That,s what its there for after all isn't it? It is for the noobs benefit as much as chatters in global 1 as they get help from ppl that know a lot about this game in the help tab. Nobody makes a big deal when we send trade ppl to trade tab so why the big deal with help tab? It causes arguments that can be avoided if you just send to help without being rude. I simply type help tab and often get whispered a thank you for that yet some ppl have issues with this.

As for trolls, in all honesty we need more of a BB presence and help getting rid of them. Usually we have CL's and no BB's so that is no help at all.

[Aurboth]

I would say that a password-protected global chat is an oxymoron. However, that is not to say that the idea that more than two people should be able to chat without interference is not valid. This is also a problem when doing three person adventures with people who are not in the same guild; there is no way to talk to both people at the same time without passing messages back and forth. The same is true when trying to plan multi-guild events. Could something be added that will allow user-created rooms, that are invite only? (insert appropriate NSA joke here)

For providing help, I don't mind explaining the cutter to forester ratio to a new player, again. However, I do object to forcing everyone in the global channel to listen to it again. While there may be someone who can benefit from hearing it again, the rest don't need it. There is a core group of people who monitor the help channel regularly (at least in Ares), and the only incidents I have encountered is when someone new comes to provide help who has never done it before, or someone who is simply attempting to disrupt the channel. Many of us are in global-1 as well, and are already prepared to answer the questions; we just try to do it without disrupting global-1.

Trolls are a part of any game. We need to distinguish between people who are playing and active, but make comments that are not appreciated by some; and people who are simply disruptive and not communicating. Saying something that is offensive should not automatically label someone as a troll. However, intentionally posting messages to prevent other people from speaking or engaging in personal attacks should not be tolerated. And if we are selecting people from our community to represent us, I would have no issue giving them the ability to silence someone temporarily when they fall into the later category. In addition, we also need to ensure that we all remember that the US server is open 24 hours a day (generally); while we cannot ensure there is someone present all the time, we should ensure that our leadership not only be present during the peak evening hours.

[Troll-Phu]

and i thought ares was the canadian server i might have to make anaccount over there sounds like you guys are having fun

[Faith_4]

and i thought ares was the canadian server i might have to make anaccount over there sounds like you guys are having fun

LOL! I think we are pretty evenly mixed (Canadians and US that is) and you are welcome anytime G_F_M :P