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Thread: PvP is probably better than you think!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordB View Post
    OK I need to get this off my chest. Looking at it in terms of rewards etc is the wrong way to go about things. Here is the simple economic truth, the game does not have enough resource sinks, and as a result inflation just goes insane till it breaks the economy. We don't need a system that gives us 'better' loot etc we need a system that drains a TON of resources out of the game and as a reward gives some form of 'unique' currency in limited quantities.
    The pvp loot should not come close to offsetting our losses from 'defending' the island. What it should do is drop a resource like Grout (I would suggest something different as events would just end up diluting it anyways) that we can use to upgrade buildings past level 5 or after a certain amount buys more island space. This will also encourage participation which will only make it better as well.

    The fact that the devs are being short sighted and thinking they will use it to reward with granite will just make it pointless and broken. I want to take an economics textbook and just throw it at you devs!!!
    Yes exactly. PvP should produce a new research that can be traded on market. Otherwise as LordB stated in the quote, one possibility is it contributes to more inflation. The other possibility is that the resource rewards vs. cost are too low, and the whole system ends up in the dustbin next to wild mary and sons of the veld. I have played it and I don't think the challenge is unique enough, when coupled with the inability to choose which other players you want to combat, to keep people coming back to play PvP for fun for its own sake regardless of cost. So the cost needs to be worthwhile without breaking economy. A new resource would have been perfect for that. Huge opportunity missed, and ultimately huge amount of effort watsed by BB because they continue to ignore well thought out player feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordB View Post
    OK I need to get this off my chest. Looking at it in terms of rewards etc is the wrong way to go about things. Here is the simple economic truth, the game does not have enough resource sinks, and as a result inflation just goes insane till it breaks the economy. We don't need a system that gives us 'better' loot etc we need a system that drains a TON of resources out of the game and as a reward gives some form of 'unique' currency in limited quantities.
    The pvp loot should not come close to offsetting our losses from 'defending' the island. What it should do is drop a resource like Grout (I would suggest something different as events would just end up diluting it anyways) that we can use to upgrade buildings past level 5 or after a certain amount buys more island space. This will also encourage participation which will only make it better as well.

    The fact that the devs are being short sighted and thinking they will use it to reward with granite will just make it pointless and broken. I want to take an economics textbook and just throw it at you devs!!!
    I think this is the best response, I have seen to the issue and would give incentive. You sir have a firm grasp on the mechanics and economy of the game. Inflation is already hitting hard. The grout is a wonderful idea (especially if we can start upgrading storehouses). The additional island space is a ringer. I really hope the Devs take a look at your post. One thing that really irks me is having separate generals/marshals. Would be nice to be able to use our own generals and would be better if we could enhance our generals via skill trees ( I apologize, I digressed from the topic on the last comment).

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    BB destroyed grout as a "rare" resource during this event... presents are already as low as 10 per and we still have 10 days to go... 10gc for presents mean 3 gc per 1 unit of grout.... so you can stock up with a million of it without much effort....well the biggest effort actually is offloading it from your star. Also lvl6 upgrades take enormous amounts of granite and too little of grout.

    They can still add Valor rewards at any time quite easily, which would achieve the same goal as another alternative currency

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wujcio View Post
    BB destroyed grout as a "rare" resource during this event...

    What...I'm taking donations :P
    Still around from time to time.

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    PVP is far too costly without reward. Far better to do the Fairy Tale Adventures.

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    Not to mention that having to have 2 armies, and 2 sets of generals is just stupid.

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