Why all the trend towards single player?

[TboneX]

I have only been around for a year and not all of that very active but the unpopular flaming mess of an Easter Event has drawn my attention to the forum and I thought that I should ask this so that perhaps I could gain some enlightenment. I regularly learn that I'm missing out on obvious things and I'm hoping that this will be the case here as well.

With the introduction of PvP and the way that in the Easter Event egg drops have been skewed against adventures that allow for multiple players it seems that there is a strong trend in the content being introduced to force players to cooperate less among each other. It seems to be a systematic deconstruction of the social aspect of the game environment. Why is this occurring?

The entire reason why I choose to play this game instead of a single player game hosted on my PC is because I can interact with other players in a friendly and cooperative manner. That's the advantage that it has over a single player TBS game.

When players are channeled into conducting solo endeavors, be it PvP expeditions or adventures, then chat falls off, trade falls off, and it starts to seem a lot like playing solo. Is this intentional?

[honnolea]

I, because of personal preference, play all multi player games solo.

Just sayin'

[Chants]

Would agree. Ran a couple of Tomb Raiders and the loot + egg drops was just bad. Why not have better egg drops in co-ops. Traitors or IotP drop more eggs then an FT, RB or BK does. How does that make any sense?

[Ceruhe]

Seeing as RB is stillone of the most frequent run adventures, if you just on par the eggs with Traitor eggs etc, you can get 450 eggs out of there for 3 players as opposed to 150 for the others. However, at, what is it, just under 70 eggs per lootper RB, that's 210 that get into circulation that way. How you want to do your math is up to you.
FTs being so meager sure feels wrong, but considering time/troop/cost efficiency, FTs wouldn't be mainly run for eggs then regardless, doubt they would spit more than 200 either.
The whole thing about Co-ops I have yet to understand, aside from Tomb Raider, where everyone can finish their part at their own discretion, all the other one make you wait on another player to do his part. This. Is. So. Annoying. Specially with different timezones. Main reason I don't play them, this waiting on another player to do his part so I can continue my own one just costs time if you aren't sitting through that thing in 1 sitting togehter.

[Narasn]

I am surprised people think the advantage is for the solo player. RB and BK are mostly run as solo player with a loot spot, so you get more resources in total per time and total troop loss per resource is less than a solo player running traitors or iotp or heaven forbid outlaws. There is a reason why loot spots have gone up in price during the event and it isn't because there is no demand because running them is such a bad deal.

I mostly ran motherly love this event along with my friend. He gave me the eggs and kept all the other resources. So my total egg chance was just as high from that as iotp and we got more total resources.

I do agree about Co-ops though I have always been mystified as to why anyone would want to do those.

Also I don't agree about your game philosophy. In typical MMOs group play needs to be encouraged to have any social aspect since the games are faster moving. This is a waiting game so there is a lot of chat opportunities build into the game automatically.

[Troll-Phu]

I am surprised people think the advantage is for the solo player. RB and BK are mostly run as solo player with a loot spot, so you get more resources in total per time and total troop loss per resource is less than a solo player running traitors or iotp or heaven forbid outlaws. There is a reason why loot spots have gone up in price during the event and it isn't because there is no demand because running them is such a bad deal.

well I've run almost only IOTPs and with 225 egg drop, and the ability to do one in 8min from when the generals land, any adv you wait for someone to tag or lose more than 300 Rs on is wasting time. as for outlaws, it does have a slightly higher loses but a chance at the double granite drop is more than worth it.

[LordB]

I agree, the co ops were a cute idea that would have been a nice feature, sadly ruined by lack of good loot. I think the solution isn't just regular 'loot' based.
The devs had their best idea in a long time this easter with the achievement house that is better than a FM when fully upgrade. Things like that should be incorporated into the coop adventures (upgrade able bone church or something)

PVP also needs some love like that hard, as it has near worthless loot and terrible shop items.

[Narasn]

well I've run almost only IOTPs and with 225 egg drop, and the ability to do one in 8min from when the generals land, any adv you wait for someone to tag or lose more than 300 Rs on is wasting time. as for outlaws, it does have a slightly higher loses but a chance at the double granite drop is more than worth it.

And I guess everyone has unlimited IOTPs to be able to run them every 8 minutes and I guess it only takes you 8 minutes to do outlaws too. I guess you should explain to the people who are willing to pay almost twice the amount for the RB loot spot during the event as previous that they are wasting their money because they can run IOTP every 8 minutes and get more eggs. IOTPs really should never have even entered this discussion because for most people that adventure just isn't readily available.

[LordB]

many of us have hundreds if not more stocked up for IOTP..... it is quite available, just worth more than it use to go for.

During an event like this because of the speed (20-25 mins) for the reasonable chance at 150 eggs it is simply the most efficient way of farming a resource; would be negligent not to mention the adventure as a farming tool.

And it is silly to equate ls buyers with not running IOTP/single player. I buy the ls for twice the amount during the event while I am efficiently farming IOTP and a few other adventures to remain nameless.

[Narasn]

many of us have hundreds if not more stocked up for IOTP..... it is quite available, just worth more than it use to go for.

During an event like this because of the speed (20-25 mins) for the reasonable chance at 150 eggs it is simply the most efficient way of farming a resource; would be negligent not to mention the adventure as a farming tool.

And it is silly to equate ls buyers with not running IOTP/single player. I buy the ls for twice the amount during the event while I am efficiently farming IOTP and a few other adventures to remain nameless.

Yes, this is something BB really needs to address to make the game more equal. The issue isn't the game is trending towards single player, the issue is more that because of the changes over the years events are jokes to people who have 'everything' and almost impossible to complete for new players and the gap in this regard just widens.

In the future BB, should not provide events drops in ANY adventure that can't currently be purchased with map frags or gems. That would solve the problem with IOTP.