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    Level 45 new player for 6 months. This is my first Christmas event. I am extremely disappointed I don't have a choice of Nusala/Anslem/Vargus as people did last year. My best general is Drac which I got last month.
    Now I have to wait until Easter to get MMA and Veteran. Mary Christmas is not in any of the guides and doesn't seem much better than a tavern general.
    I need a good attack general to reduce the number of troops I need. Then I can start doing adventures that give more than 10K XP, like BK, RB, and VtV. I thought Christmas 2017 with Nusala would let me do that, but no luck. Please don't remove MMA and Veteran from Easter.
    When I found out I wouldn't get Nusala at Christmas, I lost a lot of my excitement and enthusiasm for this game.

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    Support the game you play-buy some gems. Seems to be common theme anymore new players want to be handed everything.

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    dont worry the mary xmas will be added to guides and should help you level up faster. youll get 2 mayors at level 47 so prepare for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elgin View Post
    Level 45 new player for 6 months. This is my first Christmas event. I am extremely disappointed I don't have a choice of Nusala/Anslem/Vargus as people did last year. My best general is Drac which I got last month.
    Now I have to wait until Easter to get MMA and Veteran. Mary Christmas is not in any of the guides and doesn't seem much better than a tavern general.
    I need a good attack general to reduce the number of troops I need. Then I can start doing adventures that give more than 10K XP, like BK, RB, and VtV. I thought Christmas 2017 with Nusala would let me do that, but no luck. Please don't remove MMA and Veteran from Easter.
    When I found out I wouldn't get Nusala at Christmas, I lost a lot of my excitement and enthusiasm for this game.
    I can sympathize with you. I missed last year's event as well, and all year long it seemed casual conversation just assumed the champions would be available during the next Christmas event. So I'm a bit disappointed as well. However, if you are new, your priorities should have the Rarity Provision House (and one or two of its more important recipes), and Mary Christmas at the top of the list.

    Although she doesn't seem to be stronger than the tavern generals, she is still a fast general which means: You can use her for a main attack when your slow generals are blocking; You can use her in the first wave of an attack to get the benefit of her quicker recovery time; You can use her to go back and forth between your island and the adventure to transport new troops to the adventure; You can use her as the spare general you send off when somebody invites you just to tag along for the free loot on an adventure; And of course there is the new benefit of the experience boost she offers. Although with this last point I've read conflicting information as to whether this only counts for enemy units killed directly by the general, or if it counts for all units killed by the general's army. Hopefully the latter is the case. And since, as you noted, she is not in any of the guides, that just means you can be the first to write a guide about her.

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    I assumed the champions would not be available for Christmas again, which is why I bought them with gems, and I'm glad I did. They are all very helpful.

    Beans are so cheap now and in need of something to spend them on that the Majors are easy to come by when you reach that level.

    Easter is the big specialist holiday. Those generals have been a staple for years, and I don't see them going anywhere. They did try removing them a couple years ago, but people were so annoyed they had to put them back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elgin View Post
    [...]Then I can start doing adventures that give more than 10K XP, like BK, RB, and VtV. I thought Christmas 2017 with Nusala would let me do that, but no luck. Please don't remove MMA and Veteran from Easter.
    When I found out I wouldn't get Nusala at Christmas, I lost a lot of my excitement and enthusiasm for this game.
    First, if you think generals will help you with Epic adventures, you have another thing coming. You will need cannons to deal with those without very high losses. Crossbows will get eaten alive by the enemies in those adventures. Get some help from guildies to tag some other adventures, and level up to level 48 where you will be able to get a Major General (or two), and build cannons.

    If you cannot afford to buy some small packages of gems, I propose you log on daily, collect your crystals and use them pretty much exclusively on Short Letters. Running them will get you 50 gems per Venture, only needing 3 parts for each short letter should allow you to rake in gems fast as well as collecting the weekly bonus. In no time, you should be able to get the 7k gems required, without spending a dime. The CoA generals were a one-time deal, as is most of the XMAS offerings, unlike the Easter and Halloween event; since the inception of the MMA (and DRAC), they are available every event (MMA at Easter and DRAC and Grim at Halloween).

    Quote Originally Posted by Pochucker View Post
    Support the game you play-buy some gems. Seems to be common theme anymore new players want to be handed everything.
    Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by HortonsWho View Post
    [...] if you are new, your priorities should have the Rarity Provision House (and one or two of its more important recipes), and Mary Christmas at the top of the list [...]
    Awesome advice, heed it. In each and every event, you should aim to acquire any and all specialists that are offered, if possible, and if not, then prioritize them early in the event so you know what you need to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by HortonsWho View Post
    [...] And of course there is the new benefit of the experience boost she offers. Although with this last point I've read conflicting information as to whether this only counts for enemy units killed directly by the general, or if it counts for all units killed by the general's army. Hopefully the latter is the case. [...]
    This is interesting as in he summary description in her dialog box the wording suggests that ONLY her kills count as exp:



    BUT WAIT!

    In her tool-tip it declares, specifically that her entire army earns the +100%:



    Since my test server account is level 75, and experience is maxed out, I was unable to run tests to verify it. Though, I am relatively confident the way it is worded in the tool-tip is the accurate version and all exp from her garrison will get the bonus, seriously, if it was only her kills, it would be not just dismal, but pathetic since her damage is so low in the first place. Count on it being total experience for the army. This feature will actually make her a valuable general to use when possible for players who are trying to level.

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    BB_Alex already confirmed it's the whole garrison that counts, not just whatever she herself kills...dunno why some people need to nitpick on a single word and run the hell with it and it somehow sticks around.

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    Mary was originally broken or just simply not functioning, but they changed her so XP is awarded as expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceruhe View Post
    BB_Alex already confirmed it's the whole garrison that counts, not just whatever she herself kills...dunno why some people need to nitpick on a single word and run the hell with it and it somehow sticks around.
    Sorry to ruffle your feathers, but as you know, quite well, TSO ALWAYS words things very carefully and meaningfully (to them at least), a word in TSO descriptions is frequently a point of debate as they will go by literal definitions - not a bad thing, but it is what it is. Further, the Mary that was on the Mary that was originally on the test server was supposed to have 'Horseshoes' and did not appear to be not collecting the exp (in star coins it was hard to tell for sure) and was not marching as if on horseshoes (which they subsequently removed). Also, I did not see any BB_Alex confirmation of anything in relation to this question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwalben View Post
    Mary was originally broken or just simply not functioning, but they changed her so XP is awarded as expected.
    Okay, great to hear that was resolved.
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    Sorry to ruffle your feathers, but as you know, quite well, TSO ALWAYS words things very carefully and meaningfully (to them at least), a word in TSO descriptions is frequently a point of debate as they will go by literal definitions - not a bad thing, but it is what it is. Further, the Mary that was on the Mary that was originally on the test server was supposed to have 'Horseshoes' and did not appear to be not collecting the exp (in star coins it was hard to tell for sure) and was not marching as if on horseshoes (which they subsequently removed). Also, I did not see any BB_Alex confirmation of anything in relation to this question.
    If TSO words things very carefully then I also believe in TSO updates without introducing unrelated bugs.
    We have seen plenty of german to english 1:1 translations that didn't make much sense (unless of course you speak german and translated it 1:1 as well haha) as well as typos and other irrelevant cosmetic stuff. My contention was more with "why would only the general count if the general [up until at least the introduction of MMA and beyond] if it's been about the garrison all along". Not sure how to phrase it properly, when I read Mary, I wasn't at any given point thinking anything else but "the entire garrison being 'her'".
    Initial vs Developing vs Final version is an invalid point to discuss though, it's the test server, things and values are subject to change and of course, not free from bugs either, just like you know known bugs from test often times go live as well, but that's yet another issues in and by itself.
    I don't quite remember the position of where to find Alex confirmation on that, I think it was on the "Mary Xmas General" topic and like 3 pages from the end (I don't recall right now, been a few days since and I've been busy with Thanksgiving preparations, I might find it for you sometime later).

    https://forum.tsotesting.com/threads...ll=1#post46995
    Last edited by Ceruhe; 11-23-17 at 09:52 pm. Reason: Link to Alex's confirmation added

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